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It's a pretty straight forward process Danger, those were really the only two issues I ran into. I am currently framing up the bond beam which would be the exact same as if the walls were full height, so you will be able to see the rest of the process as I understand it. I am going to send a e-mail to the company I had bought the bags from and see if they have any ideas what the issues were with the bags. Is this the earth sheltered home you were talking about? They might want to think about using a cement gravel mixture in the bags below grade.

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yep this is the house. I have some pics. I'll post a thread tonight and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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So the store I had bought the compactor from replaced the broken one for free, I hadn't noticed the handle had lifetime warranty on the side of it, I made the comment if they are giving lifetime warranties how arre they in business, anywho so I compacted the bags

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and grabbed the boards that we had used for framing up the slab to start framing up the bond beam

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I decided to try and frame up the whole thing in one piece so I could try and level the whole thing

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with the different heights there were some gaps under some of the forms, so I was trying to brainstorm a way to fix that

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So I started framing out the inside form

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I cut some short pieces and framed in the ends. I ran and picked up some rebar

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and started cutting 18 inch sections

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I went around and spiked the rebar sections down into the bags leaving about 4 inches sticking up out of the bags

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I hammered one down every two feet around the perimeter and hammered them at opposing angles every two feet so the cement would adhere to the bags well

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I started laying out two sections of rebar

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and wire tied them to each other and the rebar stubs sticking out of the bags

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I bent some sections for around the corners making sure I had a couple of feet overlap

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sections where the horizontal pieces didn't overlap a vertical I set a small rock under the rebar to raise it up

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we went around and started leveling up the forms and cut sections of 2x6 and screwed them to the forms to support them

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I was still trying to figure out how to fill the gaps under the forms to keep the cement from falling out when it struck me. I had made a thread the other day on the fastfoot system

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the material for the fast foot is very similar to the sandbags, so I figured I would form a little fastfoot in the forms, so I went around screwing the sand bags on the form where I had a gap under them

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and proceeded to mix up 33 bags of cement

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I will let them set till tomorrow and then probably strip the forms and applying the chicken wire to get ready for stucco, peace

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Man it looks really good! How do you keep the bag walls plum?

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to be honest I just eyeballed them

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So we let the forms set for a couple days and decided to get them stripped yesterday

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so we stripped them off

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the bags left some interesting designs in the cement

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we trimmed off the excess baggage

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and grabbed a roll of chicken wire

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we started on the outside corner and rolled it out

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the bag ties worked well for attaching the wire

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we overlapped the corners and kept unrolling the wire around the whole wall

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and wrapped the other side as well

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we trimmed the butress corners

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and folded the end and sides down

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and wired them up

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those were all finished and we started trimming the tops of the walls

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we got that all cut and then I took a masonry bit and screws and screwed the top of the wire to the cement beam

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off to pick up some surface bonding cement and lime

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So I went and picked up some surface bonding cement, I skipped the lime, there's enough in there I figure

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and started mixing it up, the first batch I made a little to soupy

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so I let it set for a little while and started packing the spaces in between the bags

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handpacking it was the only way to go, using a trowel was a exercise in futility

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finished the outside and started on the inside of the wall

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the buttress and inside corners were taking a lot

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but I got the one side finished

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and started on the other before it got dark

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here's one thing I had never mentioned before, keep a gallon of vinegar around and wash your hands with them to combat the base of the lime, that stuff destroys the hands

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I was hoping to finish the inside on the last wall today, but of course it's raining, time to wait

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So after a week the rain stopped, so I proceeded to screw down the rest of the wire on the bottom of the far end

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the wall had set up well

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so I started finishing off the scratch coat on the inside

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all finished

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I started the finish coat on the far side, I started by misting the wall with water to form a good bond between the scratch coat and the finish coat

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After applying it I took a wet sponge and buffed out any high spots

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and worked my way around the corner

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after our 4 day mini vacation the lumber showed up yesterday

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and he dropped it in front of the building

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we snapped a chalk line on the bond beam

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and laid down some sill seal

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we used a ram set

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and attached a 2x6 PT for a sill plate

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we left some overhang to frame out the doors with

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we realized we still had to take down half the tree that was overhanging the pad

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so we fired up the chainsaw

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and missed the building but took out the electric fence for the pigs, had to fix that quick

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we laid out the stub walls on the pad

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and framed in a couple of window openings

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and stood it up on the sill plate and nailed it down

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and knocked out the back wall

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and framed out the ends before calling it a day, hope to get it sheathed and roof framed today, peace

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