5 Mar ’12
I told my wife that we needed a puppy this Spring -- she said she would rather have pigs since we can butcher them. I told her "done deal" and she immediately wish she wouldn't have mentioned it.
In case I do pull the trigger on pigs, what do I need to know? I am starting from ground zero here.
Here are some questions I have. KVR and others -- care to chime in?
- How secure of an enclosure to I need? KVR, I have seen your videos and it looks like you struggled with this a bit. I was wondering if I could use t-posts and electrified fence to keep them in? What about keeping animals out... like coyotes, etc.? Ideally I would have them partially in the forest so they can help me take down small trees and reclaim part of the field that was lost to overgrowth. Will tall grass, branches, etc. be a problem for the electric fence?
- I was going to build them a small lean-to shed to keep the weather out and keep it south facing. Is that enough?
- How much do you feed them daily? We aren't very good at feeding animals morning and night -- luckily my chickens free ranged and I never fed them. I am concerned that this would be a big deal and become a burden after a while.
- So we buy them in the Spring and butcher in the Fall? That simple?
I would take any advice you can give.
yeah, we usually run them on electric, these ones this year lost their fear of the fence and we had issues with them escaping. Electric is a mental barrier not a physical, once they lose the fear, it's all down hill.
Lean to would be fine.
It varies as they get older, you can get a dual feeder that holds 100 pounds of feed and you just fill it every couple of days. Water will be the biggest issue, i would recommend setting up a nipple system and train them on that, or you will be hauling water constantly as they like to knock it over.
You are going to need some shade and a wallow spot for them, pigs have ineffective sweat glands and need to cool themselves down with wallowing, overheating can be a concern.
Yep, we usually get in May and slaughter at the end of October, you can figure about 800 pounds of feed to get them to slaughter weight. If you have a feed store you can buy in bulk and save a bunch on feed. If you have to buy the feed you'll pay about 14 dollars for a 50 pound bag so about 200 dollars for feed. The pig will cost about 80 dollars. 140 or so to slaughter and smoke and you should get about 140 pounds of meat.
No including their shelter, you'll be at right around 3 dollars a pound for raising your own.
I would pick a spot you want cleared out of undergrowth or you want to plant next year, you'll be surprised how much they will turn that land over quick.
If you want to save some money, you can rotate them onto to different spots so they can graze. Look into big blacks, HFF just got some and I did a thread on them awhile ago, they are more of a grazer than a rooter from what I have read.
Your kids are gonna love them, I would get two and not one, pigs are very social animals and they can get a little funny if they are by themselves. A bored pig is a destructive pig. I would recommend just spending 20 minutes or so a day handling them, that way if they do get out, they will come to you versus running away.
Get a white bucket and put their feed in it when you go to feed them, call to them when you walk to them, they will associate your voice and the white bucket with food, which makes it easier as well to control them.
If they do escape and aren't going in the direction you want, put a bucket over their head and they will back up and you can direct them. Or you can wheelbarrow with their back legs which is easy when they are little, but gets harder as they get bigger.
Kvr has it well covered, but I will second getting the heritage breeds if you want them to graze, forage and clear under scrub areas. The only point I would disagree with concerns my Large Blacks and rooting. They are SERIOUS SERIOUS rooters. Mine are still just small but they move more earth in a day than you could believe!!! The Hampshires we have are huge but don't begin to root as much.
Pigs are intelligent and social, and mostly like their people. Ours like being smacked and petted and they will run and play. My big boar picks up sticks and pokes the sow in the butt to move her. Yes really... We just run field fencing and then a strand of electric inside that and near the bottom. We are currently fencing to include creek access for them, helping with the water issue. We have a lot of water sources here like springs and seeps etc... if you have those make use of them!
I find pigs to be one of the easiest livestock animals to raise, rarely any health issues unless there is something like a shipping type fever. I bought 4 piglets this Spring that had been exposed to something. One was dead next morning, shot the others with big doses of Penicillin, lost another... added a second antibiotic and the rest are fine. But mostly they are healthy animals. If you can buy straight off someones farm best to do so. Anything run through a sale lot is at risk. HAVE FUN!
On the other hand, if I had to keep them in a lot because of space issues, had neighbors etc... I would ring if I had to. It is needed sometimes especially if your neighbors don't like your animals. It seems almost cruel, though, to take away something they love so much. I swear my pigs smile at us when they are happy.
5 Mar ’12
Thanks for all of the input. Some people at work are scaring me off due to feed costs -- but I don't think they fully realize that I will only have 2 pigs. Let's say I have them in a 50'x50' enclosure -- is that big enough? If I have grass, shrubs, young trees, etc. in there how long will it take for them to root around and dig it all up? Should I have a second 50'x50' enclosure set up so that I can rotate them on the land?
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