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20 Feb ’16 - 8:00 pm
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Just wanted to see if anyone else had come across a way to combine the wall and the roof of the house? KVR and speed both did beautiful jobs with the drystack and parge, and then a traditional stick roof attached on top, which in my mind provides a great opportunity for lighting on the northern side of the building. However, I was just trying to think of alternatives for economizing the construction and came across the idea of bent i-beams

 

Something like this but that would ideally go all the way to the ground so that you don't need a separate wall. You would still need concrete or a skin on top for insulation and waterproofing but in my mind it would be easier to have a green roof. 

Who knows, maybe it would be easier to insulate it if there was no bend at the corner. And of course you could have a green roof on both Speed and KVRs buildings, but this would be a "roll-on" where there's no step between the two.

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20 Feb ’16 - 8:03 pm
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I have some links for designs somewhere, let me look for them, might take a day, I think they are on an old laptop

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Came across these guys. Probably not enough strength to berm against but might be a neat bridge style (ground cover and then the ends open).

http://www.archedcabins.com/

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they are pretty inexpensive too

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There was spec. on their site, 20# snow load.  I can't remember if we are 40 or 60 here...have to look at my truss plan...then again I don't really care since we are doing the metal roof...just watch out for the avalanche when it comes loose.

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Q. What are the wind/snow load ratings for your cabins?
A. Our Arched Cabins meet 2012 International Building Code minimum standards of 150 mph wind speeds and 30 psf (pounds per square foot) of snow loads. We're in the process of having our engineers certify that our cabins meet minimum standards in every state, and so far are certified in states including but not limited to Texas, Michigan, and Montana.

I can't imagine that holding snow at all

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I tried to look for some detail on the frame...I think it's a arched tube/pipe maybe.

Maybe look at some of the steel/bolt together Quonset hut styles?  I have a couple of friend that have them for barns and once they are up they are very strong and because of the dome shape wind and snow don't seem to be an issue at all...just a pain to put in hundreds of bolts.

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yeah, it's just arched square tubing

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