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farmboy2
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6 Jun ’12 - 9:20 pm
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after reading about KVR's horrible situation, it steers me to possibly go with a composting toilet in my new house.

I've been reading a great deal about it and although it does require monthly maintenance, as long as you continue to do the maintenance, you should never have any problems with the system.

The waste is composted naturally. It leaves no odor inside the house, as it has fans and vents that draw air away.

The down side is that once per month you have to open a slot in the composting tank and rake down the top layer of waste. Yes, this part doesn't sound the best. And then every 2-6 months, depending on size of unit and amount of use, you have to open the bottom drawer and shovel out the fresh compost.

There is no foul odor to the finished product. It smells like earth, from what I hear.

I would NOT use this compost to place on plants meant for human consumption. It should be used either in a field, on flowers and at the base of trees.

My wife doesn't like the idea, as the maintenance part seems gross. But there are specific benefits to this type of system.

1. cost. This system costs less than installing a septic system.

2. Septic drain fields fail after a while. causing waste to back up into the house. As long as you remove the finish product as instructed, this will never happen to composting system.

3. Septic tanks need to be pumped every 1-2 years, depending on amount of use. this expense is eliminated with composting toilet.

4. Public sewer systems charge $ for using the system. Each month you pay that bill. Yes, most of the time it's carefree system and well worth the cost of not having to deal with waste in any form.

But once in awhile the public system will back up and deliver waste inside your home.

No monthly charges with the composting toilet and as long as you remove finished product, it will never back up waste inside your home.

I'm really leaning towards this option. For all the reason above.

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i tend to side with the wife

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I wish we had gone with something different, issue for us was the fact that we were within 500 of town sewer, Maine law dictates that if you are within 500 feet you are required to hook up. We couldn't put the house back any further due to how wet the land gets back there.

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I used to teach wilderness medicine every year for the teachers at an alternative school outside of Vail, CO. They had a pretty sweet composting toilet system there. The rakes were kind of built in, with rubber gaskets & the handles sticking out, so even the raking was fairly "clean". Many of the ski in huts I used to go to also had composting systems & I wish I had paid more attention to how they were set up & worked.

Our new place is a septic system & I am afraid of it, lol. fear of the unknown I think. I have alot to learn about the whole thing. I can see the girlfriend being sold on a composting system the first time we have a KVR moment with our septic. blech!

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The rakes were kind of built in, with rubber gaskets & the handles sticking out, so even the raking was fairly "clean".

that would be great. I really have no idea why it can't be an automatic system. Maybe the future we'll see one.

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gw99 -- we built an off-grid house and we originally went with a Biolet composting toilet. It was not the larger unit you seem to be describing but a self contained unit that looked like a big toilet. We had bad experiences with the compost inside freezing or getting too cold while we were away (we have sinced moved in, would probably be different now) and my wife, who was excited for the Biolet, quickly began to hate it. We had an issue with small black flying bugs living in the compost and flying around, there were occasionally smell issues, and seeing your wate inside while you add the compost mixture eventually proved too much. Plus, on the self contained units, you pull the tray out in your bathroom which can get messy.

If I had to do it all over again I would have us build a lovable loo and call it a day. A lovable loo is a wood box that holds a 5 gallon plastic bucket filled with pine shavings with a toilet seat on top. You empty it when it gets full in a compost pile that you let sit for a year. If we started with that I think we would still be using it today. Instead, we had to shell out ~$6k for septic. Bah.

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hey thanks for the input, Porkchop.

You're right, the type I have in mind is the larger model.

http://www.sun-mar.c.....t2_ne.html

kinda like this one.

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the sun mar brand is pretty good. But from what I hear, the best brand of composting toilet is clivus multrum.

http://www.clivusmultrum.com/

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