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Naderhood
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26 Jan ’13 - 8:19 am
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Wont start shopping land for another 1.5 years, BUT, the plan for now is to build a house here in NH. Need to start looking at plans and I want some suggestions. I want to have around 1800-2000 Sq ft and have it be somewhat self sustaining. My goal would be to have the option to live off the grid at some point but for the near term we'd be on the grid. I'm thinking something similar to K's house or perhaps one of those metal building or a combination. What are my first steps I should make? I want to try and keep the costs down because the area I'm in has a somewhat high cost of living. My goal would be to build something that is sturdy yet not cheap so I can have a much lower mortgage rather than buying some of the overpriced real estate around here.

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These days I really like the idea of insulated concrete form buildings. I am not sure how comfortable you would be with doing the foundation and walls yourself, so that could be cost prohibitive. If you like ICF, but would not want to do do the structure yourself you could always look at having the envelope commercially constructed, and then finish yourself.

If I were to build today I would go ICF, build a rectangle (or maybe an L so the kitchen/living area could be a bit bigger) ensuring the long sides are north/south. Try to keep the distance from south to north wall as shallow as possible. Roof would be a single slope, higher in the south to allow of tall windows, lower in the north. Lots of windows south, some east, and then as few as possible north/west but still trying to keep natural light all over. Look for solar tubes to get some great light in rooms like the bathroom. Try to have all rooms with a spot on the south wall so you get natural light and heat in as many rooms as possible. Work thermal mass in where able.

Not super detailed I know. I have a floor plan in my head, if it was on paper I would post it for you.

Regardless of the specifics, I really like ICF for the envelope.

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Wood burning stove with a cooktop.

I wish I had one when the power went out for a week. We have an electric stove, so all cooking was done on the grill. It would have been nice to be able to heat and boil water while warming the home. My wood stove insert doesnt have enough room to put a large pot on the shelf.

Just make sure you have a way to keep the kids away from it.

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I would recommend getting the smallest house you guys feel comfortable with, not only will you realize the savings in construction cost, but heating, electric bills, cooling, upkeep etc. The other benefit for you especially is property taxes, since NH doesn't have income or sales tax, it is made up in property taxes, I would get the smallest footprint possible and add outbuildings and such to make up for any space issues, like KE said, look into ICF

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I like the idea of the ICF buildings. The smallest we could go would prob be 1600 sq ft and just have an open floor plan. What are good sites for ICF building plans? I've googled a few but if anybody has experience with a good site I would def appreciate the suggestion.

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Like stated earlier -- wood stove and put it in the center of the house. Also, use all gas appliances (except for fridge). If you go with all electric appliances then you can't sustain what you have if you try to get a solar set up going.

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we have a 2000sf daylight basement set up (1000 up/1000 down), not including garage. stick built w/metal siding & decent insulation, need to replace the asphat shingle roof w/metal due to fire danger here & overall value (build it once and forget about it). built slab on grade. we use wood heat 99% of the time (the housekeeper likes a little oil filled electric radiator in the bedroom at night to warm it up, which i turn off when i come to bed). The stove isn't really that big but works great, am using about 8 or so pieces of cut pine (which burns FAST) per day and staying comfortable in the coldest part of the year. has a flat top w/space for to lg pots if needed. if your goal is to be off grid then think about things like well water vs municipal, septic instead of sewer, propane tanks instead of muni gas lines, and building a space that will function as your "engine room" to house all the stuff that it takes to run this kind of set up. our ebgine room is the size of a very large walk in closet. it houses the washer/dryer, breaker box (install a much bigget one than you think you will need, it costs you nothing to have a bunch of empty slots), our secondary well pump that gets the water around the house, our water heater, our furnace (that we never use, lol), our water filter system, our radon mitigation vent stack & fan, a swamp sink, and enough room for the battery bank & control panel we hope to install someday for solar. If your long term plan is off the grid, I can't stress enough to plan today like you will be starting with that kind of set up. It will make the steps towards getting there so much easier. the only "connection" we have is our electricity right now. well onsite, septic, propane tank (huge but would like one twice as big and underground), no land line, no cable, satellite internets. we hope to short term at least get a small solar system that can handle the well pump (this is HUGE, n0 lectricity=no water right now), the fridge & big freezer & possibly the range. if we had that up we could last for a long long time if muni infrastructure went down. in the short short term we are looking at a generator that we can pigtail into our little grid to do this function, but i don't want to depend on a gas powered engine (or listen to it frankly... i would think the sound of one would attract unwanted visitors if we are one of the few withpower). I also agree with the idea of lots of out buildings as they don't seem to effect your taxes and you don't have to heat them if your not in them. have you eyed out any land yet nader?

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Hey Nader- stumbled across this just now. food for thought for you guys http://www.survivali.....p?t=273378

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