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12 Feb ’15 - 2:34 pm
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Let me get this straight, wal-mart buys food from local farmers in Costa Rica, let's it go to waste and then imports the same product from America?

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12 Feb ’15 - 3:03 pm
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Yup, they do it in many countries. For those who do contracts with Wal-Mart they offer those products for pennies a kilo. The rest is wastage. For example I can buy apples for 2 cents a kilo as long as I make a product with it for Wal-Mart to sell in their store for a huge inflated price. If you ever lose the 2 cents a kilo deal though you will be out of business quickly.

The multi-Nationals here sell to Wal-Mart then can say they were not able to achieve a good price every year and get a write off, while keeping smaller farmers out of the market share. It is not like any of them have to pay taxes to do business. It is all about being able to control the price of food commodities.

With the US wastage for food being around 30%, it is not the rest of the World who deserves to starve imo.

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12 Feb ’15 - 3:10 pm
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is there anyone down there with knowledge that would be willing to talk about that on record?

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It is nothing new, television and internet providers do it with copper wiring to keep their monopolies. Keeping the copper price high means less upstarts.

Other countries have to ship their oil out to get it refined then buy it back above market value for domestic use. Even though they have a refinery in the country owned by the same oil company. Ecuador is one country caught in this cycle for oil.

In many cases it is not about making money, it is about spending the money to keep the grants and subsidies growing. Look at any road department, they be out filling potholes and stuff to use up their budget. Another example would be the US military complex, no wars means less produced. So proxie wars have been popping up all over the place. Those proxies need to grow now into actual Wars to improve profits. Everything has a ceiling.

Then at the heart of all trade is the US dollar. Nobody wants it but they have to give things to the US for free so they can get the US dollar in return to buy oil. Before we used to see the US manipulate foreign companies this way. Now we see the US doing it on the country scale, in order to keep the profits growing. Yes, China has been doing it also to see continued growth domestically.

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12 Feb ’15 - 5:26 pm
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Walmart wont have a say in the next mini ice age. Nothing they can do if the crops dont grow, they dont grow.

 

The Little Ice Age (LIA) is the most recent and best documented, ... Widespread crop failure resulted in famine that killed millions of people.

  http://www.pbs.org/s.....es/lia.htm

 

It was only a few hundred years ago that the earth experienced its last ice age. Global temperatures started falling during the 1300s and hit their lowest points in the late 1700s and early 1800s. New Yorkers could walk from Manhattan to Staten Island across a frozen harbor, while Londoners held "Frost Fairs" on a solid Thames River. Glaciers advanced in China, New Zealand, and Peru, and snow covered Ethiopian peaks. Diseases, aided by the change in climate, spread quickly throughout Europe and Asia. Iced waters delayed shipping from ports, growing glaciers engulfed farms and villages, tree lines receded, and agriculture deteriorated, leading to centuries of poor harvests, famine, and social unrest. Though the average global temperature dropped only one to two degrees Celsius below what they are today, the cold spell nevertheless drastically affected life at this time

 

Fatal Harvest

During the LIA, summers were wet and unusually cold and the growing season was shortened. Widespread crop failure resulted in famine that killed millions of people. To avoid starvation, people would eat the planting seed for next season, which created more of a shortage the following year.

During the MWP European farmers primarily grew cereal grains such as wheat, barley, and rye, which flourished. But the long thin stalks of these crops made them vulnerable to the strong winds and heavy rainfall that came during the LIA. The temperature drop in northern Europe made it difficult to raise these grains and many farmers gave up trying. Less grain was produced, creating a severe shortage and raising prices.

 

Wine production in northern Europe also suffered. By 1310, those vineyards that had expanded further north in England, France and Germany during the warm period went out of production due to the cooling climate.

Stocks of hay for livestock plummeted too. Temperature-sensitive haygrass was often stunted or killed by the colder winters of intense frosts and deep snow cover. The grounds stayed frozen into late spring and the quick thaws often flooded the ground, drowning the new grass. Many animals died from starvation and disease.

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12 Feb ’15 - 7:04 pm
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I think this is two different conversations

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KVR said
I think this is two different conversations

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farmboy2 said

KVR said
I think this is two different conversations

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