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Former West Virginia Miner: Weve Been Dumping Those Chemicals In The Water For Decades
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24 Jan ’14 - 12:50 pm
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You guys think this is legit or sour grapes for losing his job?

When up to 7,500 gallons of toxic 4-methylcyclohexane methanol (MCHM) spilled into the Elk River in West Virginia, leaving 300,000 people without tap water for around a week, former miner Joe Stanley was well prepared. He hadn’t been drinking the water for years.

Stanley, 64, worked at West Virginia's Marrowbone Coal Mine from 1981 to 1996. His employer was Massey Energy, the same company responsible for the Upper Big Branch Mine Disaster in 2010 that killed 29 miners and which was bought out in 2011.

Stanley says he lost his job after a conflict with management, when he, as union president, demanded an inquiry into certain chemicals that were being used in the mine. He claims that mine workers, particularly electricians and pinners, were getting sick.

Decades later, the truth is hard to determine; however, we're more interested in his bleak outlook on pollution.

"I watched the coal industry poison our water for years. Now they're telling us not to drink the water? We've been dumping this stuff into unlined ponds and into old mines for years," he says. "This MCHM was just one of the chemicals we were told was highly toxic but that we dumped into old mine shafts and slurry ponds, and it's been seeping into the groundwater for years."

It sounds bad even before Stanley explains that coal mines are constantly pumped to clear ground water, aquifers, and underground streams: "As soon as we're out of that mine it immediately fills with water. And where does it go from there? I don't know, your guess is as good as mine."

"I haven't drank the water here in years, and I suggest you do the same," he says, pausing and then reiterating. "Don't drink the water. Just don't do it."

There's plenty of evidence to support Stanley's claims.

An Environmental Protection Agency assessment last year identified 132 cases where coal-fired power plant waste has damaged rivers, streams and lakes, and 123 where it has tainted underground water sources, according to an AP investigation by Dina Cappiello and Seth Borenstein. Nearly three quarters of the 1,727 coal mines in the U.S. have not been inspected in five years to see if they are following water pollution laws, according to the same investigation, which cites these and other alarming findings about coal pollution.

Those numbers don't even include pollution by companies in related industries, like Freedom Industries, the chemical company behind this month's spill of coal-cleaning solvent MCHM.

Even West Virginia Governor Earl Ray Tomblin has expressed uncertainty about water quality after the spill.

“It’s your decision,” Gov. Tomblin told reporters at a press conference on Monday. “If you do not feel comfortable drinking or cooking with this water then use bottled water. I’m not going to say absolutely, 100 percent that everything is safe. But what I can say is if you do not feel comfortable, don’t use it.”

Yet bringing up environmental concerns is a good way to make enemies in coal-dependent West Virginia, as Stanley knows.

"I've had threats, sure," he says. "But I've got some friends and they look out for me."

As an illustration of what he's been up against Stanley grabs a sign that says "SAVE COAL, END THE EPA." A campaign sign for leading local Republican Senate candidate Pat McGeehan, that kind of outlook wins a lot of votes in this region.

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No, sadly it is probably true. WV is kind of its own sub-culture when it comes to the rest of the nation. Basically our water ways have been tainted by just about everything but it only comes to light when someone gets caught. People and companies have been dumping into the waterways for years. It looks like now this place is going to get torn down. The next big thing around the state is the fracking and how it is gonna affect not only the streams and rivers, but the ground water as well.

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26 Jan ’14 - 12:11 am
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Yeah, Danger and spotted horses property has some wells on it, several other members in wv have had issues as well. Where I grew up in Pa are going through the same thing now, my brother still lives there and has plans to sell his house this spring and move up here to Maine

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The problem with Wv is that our oil and gas rights were bought up years ago... sold by people who didn't have the presence of mind to see all that it entailed. People who had no grasp or concept of what the business entailed. Poverty was rampant and that money looked good when you had kids to feed. Oil and gas and coal rule the roost here.... but its still home.

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whats the projected time frame for these areas to be producing?

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