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How Horrific will it be for the non prepared
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12 Jun ’12 - 8:41 am
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a very good read and might be worth sharing with people

I have become personally so disenchanted with the way people fail to prep. People still don’t understand how important it is to put away. I have gotten into arguments over this and had cretins call me a fool because I put away food, water, and supplies. I thought about this and the frustration that other preppers have with this laid back idiotic attitude that there is no need for preparation. There are good people that just can’t/won’t start preparing. They have the money to do so, but just don’t want to. Many have only seen what happens to non-preppers on TV, but it still doesn’t make an impact.

In this article I detail some hard core realities to show just how awful it will be for those that don’t prep. Every one of these scenarios is something that has occurred to the non-prepper throughout history. While strong images come to mind, the purpose is to jar some people out of their inaction and into action before it is too late.

Preppers are good people and care much about those around them, and unless something does jar those around them that choose not to prep, their own survival chances could be reduced. For every bit of food, water, ammunition, or supplies you sacrifice to the non-prepper, the fewer irreplaceable supplies are left for you and your family in a crisis situation. It is hoped that the following can help certain people put into TRUE perspective just how horrific it will be for those that don’t prepare.

Here are the awful consequences for those refusing to prep.

As the world continues to decay at multiple facets, the common person has and continues to be lulled into a sense that everything is improving and will continue to for the distant future. After all, to them unemployment has peaked out and will drop until everyone that wants to work will easily be able to find good paying work, North Korea is no threat because all their long range “bottle rockets” fizz out, sanctions will eventually make Iran give up their nuclear program, oil prices will start going down after June or so, Europe will bail out Greece and Spain and everyone else, and U.S. debt will eventually come under control.

After 2012 everyone that has prepared themselves will go back to more “sensible” lives. “Good times are coming”, baseball season is here, let’s get back to watching some more crackerjack news.

It is amazing how people become good conversationalists with most others discussing all the gossip related news, while becoming mentally tranquilized into a totally deceptive state of denial of truly dangerous issues of the times. It’s the blind leading the blind… right off the cliff.

Rather than dealing with harsh reality, people surround themsleves with easy to digest material that can be talked about without directly influencing anyone’s lives. Meaningless chatter. Even for those unwilling to even think to prepare for a societal catastrophic event, there is also no desire to even face the extreme possibility of a sudden loss of one’s employment. A personal SHTF.

Look at some of the terrible personal pain experienced in America right now – and it hasn’t even hit the fan on a grand scale. Those people who have lived it up on credit, who failed to put much of anything away for a rainy day, who’ve lost their job, and who eventually lost their unemployment benefits are experiencing the first level of collapse. This is happening to millions of people in our own country, all around us, as we speak.

These Americans, who once enjoyed the luxuries that modern living had to offer, are now at their wits end, with very little hope for a return to their previous lives. They are no longer able to pay most or any of their bills. Many have to humiliatingly turn to others for help to pay for food, or worse, to obtain old, unhealthy and poor tasting food from locally funded food banks. Their credit cards are totally worthless. Many have been evicted from their homes and have uprooted their families to live either on the street, in tent cities, with relatives, or have been forced to live at homeless shelters, They’ve have had their vehicles repossessed, or simply can’t afford the gasoline anymore. Their living conditions often make it difficult, if not impossible, to look presentable for job interviews. For many, the life of stability they knew just a short while ago is gone, replaced with fear and a constant stress to the point of nervous breakdown.

A personal economic meltdown is confined to the individual or family, or at worst a few families. The human civilization remains intact and so do society’s safety nets.

With food assistance, rental assistance, homesless shelters, and family to turn to, even the most destitute are almost always able to find some sort of help – however menial.

It is no wonder with these known assistance programs, then, that people have forgotten or never thought to consider what happens IF and WHEN human civilization goes through a strong enough SHTF event. If that happens on a mass scale what happens to everyone that needs help that has not prepared ahead of time? What happens when governments are in such total disarray or destroyed altogether that they can’t help even if they wanted to?

The media and others have portrayed the good people that sacrifice much if not all “luxuries” of life to prepare themselves and their family and friends for extreme times, as chicken littles. Those who have made the choice to store up emergency food, water, and other necessities to avoid extreme life threatening risks, including suffering horribly during and after a widespread SHTF event, are laughed at and ridiculed often for “wasting” their lives on delusional paranoia.

But who is delusional? Those who see the signs around them and understand how vulnerable the system is, or those who believe that things never change, that politicians have their best interests at heart, and that if the worst happens the government will be there to provide everything they may need?

How many have considered the dire consequences of their failure to prepare in the event that the infrastructure and everything a country’s people depend on totally collapses?

The misery from long term unemployment and lack of money is like a walk in the park compared to the severe anguish and dangerous conditions that await those who have failed to prepare for the aftermath of a large scale cataclysm. The “minor” problems of unemployment that seem extremely major and painful to most today should serve as a wake up call to what life will be like when something much, much worse happens – when those proverbial safety nets are no longer there to catch us.

Many preppers have become deeply frustrated at those around them, especially those that truly mean something to them, because they simply refuse to put away anything at all for emergencies. The prepper is usually a person that cares a lot and it is often difficult for them to take a tough stance towards the people that they care about. However, unless someone changes the habits of those people that fail to get ready, decisions will need to be made, and they won’t be easy.

The choice of what the prepared prepper should do will boil down to either either adding these people to their own circle or survival group and reduce the group’s safety, supplies and self sufficiency, OR, they will have to let the non-prepper fend for themselves. This is a very personal choice, and each of us will need to decide based on our own morals, ethics and personal relationships.

As a last ditch effort, discussing the following scenarios with the non-prepper may help them understand what life will be like without what has sustained them so comfortably for so long.

This is the hard reality the non prepper needs to understand:

http://www.shtfplan......r_05122012

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12 Jun ’12 - 12:33 pm
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it will be a symphony of beautiful chaos...

i believe some people are prepping.. but I don't believe many have the skill set or the determination (maybe this isn't the correct descriptor) to last for long. We are not the same people as the Americans that lasted through the great depression.

here is an example of what i mean. when i was on the job, i worked for a city on the east coast that was often subject to hurricanes. During one such event, the power went out (as usual) for days and the flooding disabled with city's water supply and pumping stations. We were working ungodly hours and the National Guard was activated and 2-3 of them were riding with each one of us. Within 2 days, every grocery store (in certain demographic areas) had been broken into. Unattended commercial businesses followed. Curfews were only effective in keeping in the law abiding citizens.

During the day, the fresh water and food distribution locations had to be secured with a large LEO/Guard presence. In certain demographic areas: people refused to stand in line and wait their turn, they took even when they were not in need, and fights/bullying erupted continually...This started occurring at day 2.

In other places, neighbors were helping neighbors. They were clearing the streets and repairing their homes and making do. It took longer for these folks to get "cranky". 5-7 days i'd guess, but they still weren't rioting. The problem with these can do folks was often medical emergencies. Manual labor injuries, lack of medications, or medical problem related to lack of power.

Most of these minor shtf events lasted for 1-2 weeks and it pushed some "citizens" well past their limit. It also stretched the local govt.s and NG very very thin. some of the things people did to people were......typical (for lack of a better word).

People aren't prepared to go long term....

In summary, it's easy for folks to react emotionally when shtf.....they are going to, big time. IF a NG Unit and a squad of armed leos have difficulty managing crowds, a family of four aint gonna get it done even if one of them has the will and determination to use lethal force.

In my estimation, the area in which i see most folks lacking is intellectual: specifically medical and scientific knowledge. how are you gonna stem a GSW to one your own? How are you going stem an arterial bleed when the chain saw bucks and opens your leg up? what is a good alternative to nitro when a cardiac event is imminent? What chemicals can I use to create a rudimentary antiseptic (cause infections are gonna be rampant)?

If I were a single man, i think i'd just dress up like Caine from kung fu and wander from place to place getting into all sorts of wacky adventures. you know, helping folks and stuff, while snatching pebbles from peoples hands for handouts.

And the monkey presses the button.

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I think living in under developed or third World countries has prepared me in some way for shtf scenarios.

After all most the populace will turn on each other on a normal day and most everyone is already more self sufficient. Most people will have at least a crap load of chickens. A pig if they are feeling rich that year. The governments do not have the programs to support them during normal times so they expect nothing when something does happen. Well unless a bleeding heart NGO takes up the cause.

Firearms is already the only true law. Heck I could make these examples all day. My point is that in the end for civilized countries most everyone will panic when the power goes off for days on end. While most developing countries it just means no TV tonight again.

For instance on a personal note I got tired of losing power, brown outs, black outs and monkeys getting fried and blowing transformers.

So I started prepping without even knowing it, just so there was less of a hick up in the normal week. You experience the hick ups of buying stuff that breaks apart and parts take 4-6 months to arrive. You learn to make those parts or MacGuiver stuff.

It will take a while though for the child to graduate from Med school. So that there is always access to medical.

Most developed countries everything is so structures and timely. Most people can not handle 5 minutes of idle time (especially by themselves)in a day. That will be the biggest issue coming I think. The mob having idle time.

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