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13 Sep ’14 - 9:08 pm
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This is really *#?€}$ up

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14 Sep ’14 - 9:23 am
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as a tax payer, I would be ticked that my tax dollars would be going to maintain it, parts on those things aren't cheap

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I thought I posted this, but to me, the most ridiculous part of the whole school system owning one of those, is that if there is an active shooter, it's not the School District that would respond, it would be the police.  If there was an earthquake, etc., it wouldn't be the school district that rescues the injured, it would be the fire department.  Are they delusional in thinking they need one, or are they BSing the public saying that's what they wanted one for?

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yeah, this came off as someone that wants to be rambo

“Our idea is ‘How can we get in and pull out a classroom at a time of kids if there’s an active shooter?’ said Florentino. “‘If there’s a fire [or] if there’s an earthquake, can we rip down a wall?’ Stuff like that.”

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seems Los Angeles School District as well

Los Angeles Unified school police officials said Tuesday that the department will relinquish some of the military weaponry it acquired through a federal program that furnishes local law enforcement with surplus equipment. The move comes as education and civil rights groups have called on the U.S. Department of Defense to halt the practice for schools.

The Los Angeles School Police Department, which serves the nation's second-largest school system, will return three grenade launchers but intends to keep 61 rifles and a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected armored vehicle it received through the program.

L.A. Unified is one of at least 22 school systems in eight states that participate in the program, which provides law enforcement agencies with the extra military-grade gear at no charge.

The program gained notoriety and received sharp criticism after recent unrest in Ferguson, Mo., in which local police deployed armored vehicles, wore body armor and carried assault rifles while attempting to quell protests after the shooting death of a black 18-year-old by a white police officer.

More than $5 billion in surplus military equipment has been distributed to law enforcement agencies nationwide, including school police, since 1997.

School police departments have increased their presence and force in recent years, particularly after the 2012 massacre in Newtown, Conn., in which a gunman killed 26 people — 20 of them children — at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

The shooting spurred debate nationwide over whether armed school guards could prevent mass shootings. In California, at least half a dozen school districts allow campus officers to carry high-powered rifles.

School officials argue the guns and other equipment are needed to prevent potential tragedies.

In a letter to the Department of Defense's logistics agency, a coalition of education and civil rights groups said the presence of weapons on campuses will only intensify existing tensions at schools and exacerbate punitive atmospheres that criminalize and stigmatize students of color.

Deborah Fowler, deputy director of Texas Appleseed, a social justice nonprofit, said in a statement that other more common weapons used by officers and security guards, such as Tasers and pepper spray, have been misused in schools. Much of this excessive force is targeted at students of color and those with disabilities, she said.

"Military-grade weapons have no place on our public school campuses," Fowler said. "We're simply calling for a return to common sense when it comes to the way our schools are kept safe," she said.

L.A. Unified says that the M-16 automatic rifles, which were modified to semiautomatic since they were acquired in 2001, are "essential life-saving items" and will continue to be available to trained officers. The armored vehicle will be used only under extraordinary circumstances, officials said.

The Baldwin Park Unified School District Police Department received three of the rifles.

The Oakland School Police Department received a "tactical utility truck," according to the state. The department remodeled the vehicle, which is used as an attraction at school events and parades, Sgt. Barhin Bhatt said.

"It's a rolling public relations vehicle," Bhatt said. "We end up having to bring out a gas can and jumper cables every time we want to drive it — it's only used twice a year."

The department has no plans to acquire any high-powered weapons, Bhatt said.

In Stockton, the school police department was given less-controversial equipment — including a podium, an exercise bike and a pair of televisions.

But the desire to have the tools to adequately protect the public is shared by all law enforcement — especially school police, said Stockton school police Chief Bryon Gustafson. His department has about a dozen AR-15 semiautomatic rifles for its officers that were purchased outside the federal program.

"The job of police officers and the standards are the same whether you are Stockton police or Stockton school police … even if we have very different missions," Gustafson said. "My job is about facilitating education and making sure that students are safe at school."

The program can be a boon for cash-strapped departments that can arm themselves with lifesaving equipment at no cost.

"You hope you never need that kind of equipment," said, adding that the department has purchased about a dozen semi-automatic rifles. "But if you do and you don't have it — it's a shame."

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17 Sep ’14 - 11:12 am
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The Los Angeles School Police Department, which serves the nation's second-largest school system, will return three grenade launchers but intends to keep 61 rifles and a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected armored vehicle it received through the program. - See more at: http://thehomesteadi.....-3/#p36725

 

How the hell do you even begin to justify this?  Friggin' grenade launchers??  Hell, I bet the schools in Israel don't have this kind of crap and they're dealing with the PLO.

 

 

os Angeles School Police Department, which serves the nation's second-largest school system, will return three grenade launchers but intends to keep 61 rifles and a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected armored vehicle it received through the program. - See more at: http://thehomesteadi.....-3/#p36725
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easytapper said

The Los Angeles School Police Department, which serves the nation's second-largest school system, will return three grenade launchers but intends to keep 61 rifles and a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected armored vehicle it received through the program. - See more at: http://thehomesteadi.....-3/#p36725

 

How the hell do you even begin to justify this?  Friggin' grenade launchers??  Hell, I bet the schools in Israel don't have this kind of crap and they're dealing with the PLO.

 

 

os Angeles School Police Department, which serves the nation's second-largest school system, will return three grenade launchers but intends to keep 61 rifles and a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected armored vehicle it received through the program. - See more at: http://thehomesteadi.....-3/#p36725

dunno, the whole thing keeps getting crazier and crazier

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interesting to see what this does

President Barack Obama is expected to sign an executive order to encourage more oversight of federal programs that dole out military gear to local police departments, senior administration officials said Monday.

The executive order will direct agencies that distribute military-style equipment to local police to require training for cops that receive the gear. The president will also require officials to create a central database to track the supplies, as a significant number of weapons and vehicles previously allocated have gone missing.

Obama ordered a review of Pentagon, Justice Department and Homeland Security programs that arm local police after a military-style response to protests in Ferguson, Missouri sparked outrage in August. 

Local officers showed up to control protests sparked by the fatal police shooting of unarmed teen Michael Brown in armored tank-like vehicles, wearing military-style riot gear, and holding assault weapons. Police were also photographed aiming the weapons at protesters, in contravention of military procedure, sparking criticism that they had not been adequately trained. Police said they needed the gear to protect themselves.

“There is a big difference between our military and our local law enforcement, and we don't want those lines blurred,” Obama said at the time.

But it's unclear if the president's actions will have any effect on the amount of military-style gear the federal government doles out to local cops.

On a call with reporters, administration officials would not say whether the president supports or opposes bipartisan efforts in Congress to ban local police departments from receiving recycled armored vehicles from the war in Afghanistan and certain kinds of assault rifles.

The president’s planned executive action also does not appear to immediately affect the 460,000 weapons and other controlled pieces of military equipment that have already been doled out from the Pentagon to local law enforcement agencies, including more than 5,000 Humvees and 92,000 guns.

Obama does plan to dole out one new piece of equipment to police departments that will likely please civil liberterians: The White House will allocate $75 million dollars over three years to provide police departments with up to 50,000 body-worn cameras for their officers.

Civil rights advocates have long pushed for all police officers to wear the cameras, to prevent against excessive use of force against civilians. Brown's parents announced a campaign to equip officers with cameras.

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