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Into their homes as they get older?

We use to have multi generational households in the past. With a unknown financial future for your elders and yourself, has anyone thought of this?

Obviously we have my father living with us and personally wouldn't have it any other way, my daughter better remember this!

I came across this medcottage site which made me think of this, they are more geared toward a long term care replacement, but good to see people are thinking of things like this

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I go In and out of med facilities every day bro, some of which are long term care and assisted living. When they send one of us in something really bad has happened. I think you would be surprised at the atrocities that go on in these places. Medical licensees that you would hope are caring for your loved ones can cause some of the most horrendous injuries and deaths. The best facilities I have seen are often private pay and cost tremendous amounts of money....far more than social security benefits and a small pension would cover. Additionally, many facilities take direct control of your family members assets (unless in a irrevocable trust for several years prior to admission). If they receive assistance through home health care, keep an eye on their money, medications, and property.

Keep your loved ones with you as long as you can. Be prepared assist with the activities of daily living and medication administration (you must be able to lift them or use a device to move them!) Look into trusts that secure their money and can transfer control of assets before they need it. If they develop Alzheimer's or dementia you are in for a long rough hall as they strike out and do and say irrational things which cause hurt feelings, depression, marital discord and doubt.

I think those that can will be hold onto or moving their parents in with them out of financial necessity in the future as costs rise and benefits/entitlements decline.

And the monkey presses the button.

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after seeing what my grandfather went through in a nursing home, I agree with you

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I am a couple years short of 50, and this is something I think about almost daily. Both of my parents are still alive and living on their own (mom is married but her husband is older than she is) but my dad is 86 and my mom is 77. We have begged them to come and live with us but until now, neither have wanted to. They both live in warm climate areas and we live in WV where we get snow and below freezing temps about 2 to 3 months of the year.

My dad is, I think, finally ready as his only brother just passed away last week, he was 91. Before his brother died he and my aunt had been pushing my dad hard to move in with either my sister or I, or at least near us. My mom has already said that if her husband dies first, she will definately move out here with me.

On the OTHER side....we are not getting any younger, and my 2nd daughter (27) and my oldest daughter and her husband (both 29) are getting ready to move here and (G-d willing) build a simple house each. Charlotte (27 year old) has been here off and on for a year now and finally wants to get started on a house when the weather breaks. We're looking at a lot of different construction options. The whole idea, though, is to pool our resources, get on the same page, and make this a place we can raise future generations sustainably and peacefully. We are raising 2 grandchildren and I want my daughters here to help raise them...my only son was killed as the result of a drilling/fracking company's neglect of safety standards, and they are his children.

So, sorry for being so long winded...we have a very detailed story to tell, my daughter said I should write a book...maybe someday. Peace to you for thinking about your parent's future and I think you are extremely wise to know they have so much to give still. We need to re-think the way we've been taught to think and question what society expects us to do for our elders.

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My dream would be to have my whole family live here. My son is here and my sister will be here in the next year or so. I really believe in extended families. When I was growing up we always had one or more grandparent living with us and we took care of them until they passed.

But it is hard to live with family members. The old habits and tendencies come up and it is sometimes difficult to get past them.

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I'd echo what morotetsuke has said. I spent a few years working in a LTC facility and see it this way, there will always be good people there taking care of their residents. However, every facility I have ever spent time in or around has an equal number of low brow employees. The majority of individual care is given by CNA's, as they stack nurse loads so high that much individual attention is nearly impossible. It takes six weeks (give or take) and a background check to become a CNA, and most of the good CNA's end up working at hospitals, what you have left tend to be low class, low moral, lower than average intellect. This sounds harsh, and I will say that I have had some fantastic aides to work with, but they are typically the exception. Nurses that remain in that environment also tend toward the bitter or low class end of the spectrum, again, not always, but there is a trend. It is hard, sometimes thankless work, and with the pending medicaid and medicare cuts, I don't see it improving. All that said, any family or individual that thinks they can provide the same around the clock care really don't comprehend the demands that will be made on them.

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We gave my parents a bedroom in our house when we bought it last year. They live in Virginia, but come up to New Jersey at least once a month to visit and see their grandkids. My mother had bilateral knee replacements a few years back and going up stairs is becoming more of an issue. One of my worries is once she just cant go up and down anymore we'll have to convert one of the rooms downstairs into a bedroom for them.

My wife and her family had her grandparents living with them until they passed. I'm pretty lucky and thankful that both she and I have the same mindset that at some point we will be assisting in the care of our parents as they age.

My wife is a paralegal for a divorce attorney and she has told me stories of marriages that have failed because one spouse wanted to take care of an aging parent and the other one wanted nothing to do with it. It is definitely something that needs to be discussed with your family so you have a game plan when the time comes.

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Quote from motleymutton on January 1, 2013, 18:56

I am a couple years short of 50, and this is something I think about almost daily. Both of my parents are still alive and living on their own (mom is married but her husband is older than she is) but my dad is 86 and my mom is 77. We have begged them to come and live with us but until now, neither have wanted to. They both live in warm climate areas and we live in WV where we get snow and below freezing temps about 2 to 3 months of the year.

My dad is, I think, finally ready as his only brother just passed away last week, he was 91. Before his brother died he and my aunt had been pushing my dad hard to move in with either my sister or I, or at least near us. My mom has already said that if her husband dies first, she will definately move out here with me.

On the OTHER side....we are not getting any younger, and my 2nd daughter (27) and my oldest daughter and her husband (both 29) are getting ready to move here and (G-d willing) build a simple house each. Charlotte (27 year old) has been here off and on for a year now and finally wants to get started on a house when the weather breaks. We're looking at a lot of different construction options. The whole idea, though, is to pool our resources, get on the same page, and make this a place we can raise future generations sustainably and peacefully. We are raising 2 grandchildren and I want my daughters here to help raise them...my only son was killed as the result of a drilling/fracking company's neglect of safety standards, and they are his children.

So, sorry for being so long winded...we have a very detailed story to tell, my daughter said I should write a book...maybe someday. Peace to you for thinking about your parent's future and I think you are extremely wise to know they have so much to give still. We need to re-think the way we've been taught to think and question what society expects us to do for our elders.

I am sorry for your loss, Jesse told me what happened last night, we would love to hear your story, I know Jesse has talked to your daughter about being interviewed for our podcast to get the message out, welcome to the forum ma'am

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