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8 Oct ’14 - 6:37 am
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those numbers are pretty sobering, 1995 dollars are adjusted to 2013 dollars

Middle class income is back to where it was in 1995 — but people are paying more for many things, including college, homes and even a movie ticket.
 
Median household income: Up 0%
Incomes have gone nowhere since 1995
 1995 51719
2013 51939
 
 
Tuition: Up 61%
You’ll shell out a lot more to earn that college degree at a private, four-year school
 1995 18712
2013 30094
 
 
Home: Up 13%
Putting a roof over your head has gotten more expensive, as the median existing home price rises
 1995 175176
2013 197100
 
 
Movie ticket: Up 22%
Bring more $$ to pay for your Saturday date night
1996 6.65
2013 8.13 
 
 
Gas: Up 94%
Prices are up at the pump
1995 1.80
2013 3.50 
 
 
Big Mac: Up 28%
That special sauce will cost you more
1995 3.55
2013 4.56
 
 
Grand Canyon: Up 64%
The increase in entrance fees may also take your breath away.
1995 15.29
2013 25
 
 
Sunday New York Times: Up 31%
All the news that's fit to print has gotten pricier
1995 3.82
2013 5.00 
 
 
Car: Down 21%
At least it costs less to buy a new set of wheels. Honda Accords have gotten cheaper.
1995 27346
2013 21680

 

http://money.cnn.com.....=SF_E_Lead

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Car: Down 21%
At least it costs less to buy a new set of wheels. Honda Accords have gotten cheaper.
1995 27346
2013 21680

I think that's either an error or an anomaly.  As I've said in another thread, trying to buy a used car is OUTRAGEOUS!  And even if it is accurate, the near 100% increase in fuel costs (and probably maintenance costs) probably equates to an increase.

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Yeah, I was kind of shocked by that, last year I was driving by a lot, they had a 2007 fj, same as ours, it was only like 1000 dollars less than what we paid for ours new, all thanks to cash for clunkers

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Yeah, I was kind of shocked by that, last year I was driving by a lot, they had a 2007 fj, same as ours, it was only like 1000 dollars less than what we paid for ours new, all thanks to cash for clunkers

A lot of people blame cash for clunkers, but I think it's more a sign of the economy.  Cars have increased in price out of reach of everyday people.  So now, instead of spending 20k for a new car, they're spending 15k for a used car.  All the "new car money" is now being diverted to the used car market, inflating prices.  Just my half baked theory.

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easytapper said

KVR said
Yeah, I was kind of shocked by that, last year I was driving by a lot, they had a 2007 fj, same as ours, it was only like 1000 dollars less than what we paid for ours new, all thanks to cash for clunkers

A lot of people blame cash for clunkers, but I think it's more a sign of the economy.  Cars have increased in price out of reach of everyday people.  So now, instead of spending 20k for a new car, they're spending 15k for a used car.  All the "new car money" is now being diverted to the used car market, inflating prices.  Just my half baked theory.

I think that's part of it, but I know the manager of the used car lot in question and commented to him how shocked I was about the price, and he specifically said it was because of cash for clunkers, it wiped out a huge portion of the used car inventory in the US

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It did wipe out a huge portion of the inventory, but in theory, that would have been the low end market.  The sub $2000 market.  That doesn't explain why a 2001 Honda Odyssey with 186,000 is $12k in my opinion.  But maybe I'm missing something.  I never claimed to be smart. lol

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I think with the sub 2000 being wiped out, the population that normally bought those had to buy the sub 5000 stock, which forced that group to sub 10,000, it created a domino affect, but also due to supply and demand, it increased prices from what I gathered

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Sad isn't it? Cash for Clunkers hurt all of us who do not buy our cars brand new. I am looking for a <$4k truck right now and it's pathetic out there. I have a friend who owns a junkyard and he said it really hurt them (since the clunker cars all had their engine blocks filled with concrete to prevent resale).

Prices on everything are going up and the dollar is worth less each day (as we attempt to print our way to riches). Good times.

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