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morotetsuke
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21 Sep ’12 - 10:29 am
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leroy is on the money. multiple plots of land/real estate will be a burden to you if everything goes to hell.

i would seek to diversify. a plot + some cash/valuables + 401/457 plan, etc. through payroll deduction, so you never see the money funding these things as accessible income.

And the monkey presses the button.

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I came across this years ago, it verbalizes my exact thoughts on retirement better than I ever could. It's the exact path we have been on for years. People ask me what my goals are and when I say be poor they give me a funny look, the less money I need to spend, the less I need to make. My goal is to work like 20 hours a week at a hardware store or something.

The concept of retirement is a relatively new one. Not so long ago, when we were a more agrarian based society, few people ever retired. Their daily duties just changed. As we grew older, we would take over running the farm, and then we would maybe step back and let our kids do that. Maybe we would take over maintenance of the equipment or something a little less physically demanding, but that required our experience. Maybe we would help out more inside the home. But flat-out retirement to travel south or play golf all day was the domain of the ultra rich. Even then, most tycoons were still wheeling and dealing well into their 60’s and beyond.

Nowadays with retirement plans tanking and pension funds bleeding out, we may find ourselves without the ability to retire once again. However, this time, we won’t have the farm to feed us and the multi-generational home to keep us occupied and close to our loved ones. If we’re very fortunate, we may be able to find a spot in a retirement home and sell our current homes to pay for it.

Me, I have a different plan. My plan depends on me getting prepared to take care of myself and my wife for as long as we are physically able. If my plan works, we’ll also be able to ‘retire’ early. That plan is preparedness.

When you think about it, if you can provide most of your own food, utilities, and medicine and your shelter is bought and paid for, how much money do you really need? Enough to pay the property taxes, run your vehicle, and take care of emergencies. Maybe you need some money for a bit of travel as well. But not as much money as two people working for more than 40 hours a week each generate.

It’s not hard to imagine a household income of around $100,000 a year or about $73,000 after taxes. Now, we know a lot of people are going to have mortgage payments around $1400 a month, utilities of at least $400 a month, TV and Internet for another $200 a month, $500 for food, $400 for various insurances, $200 for gas for the vehicles…it goes on and on.

So just the cost of living consumes $3100 of your after-tax income. Yearly, that’s about half of your income. If you can pay off your home, produce half of your utilities, drop the fancy TV package and step down a notch on the Internet access (that’s a tough one for me) and produce half of your food, you cut that outlay to about $1100 dollars a month. At that point, one of you can effectively retire. Or, the two of you can work half as much.

So what do you do with the extra 20-30 hours a week? Do the soul-building things like work your garden, love your spouse, split some wood, read books, start a business, whatever! Now, you are working for you. And should everything go for a poop, you are completely prepared to live comfortably and well with little to no income.

I find the thought of retiring to my homestead around the age of 50 to be a much more motivating and positive thought, than think of prepping to cope with disaster or the “End of the World” like stereotypical survivalists talk about. Disaster may never come, but time always marches on, and sooner or later we all need to slow down.

http://www.canadapre.....ment-plan/

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Good read kvr, that's pretty much how I feel. I'm hoping I can eventually set everything up to where most of my money is made from stuff I do at home. Home made jams & jellies, maybe soap. Beer. Honey. Cheese and maybe other dairy. Might even grow some grains and sell my extra for the year. Anything to make that little income you need if everything is pretty much everything is paid for.

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I set up a podcast interview with the author of that article, he also signed up today as a member,

welcome CdnGuy

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"Enough to pay the property taxes, run your vehicle, and take care of emergencies."

^This is integral. It's why, when i look for land, i've been looking for areas with homesteading provisions (tax exemptions of a certain % on a primary residence), or low property taxes. areas dependent on taxing property will be the first to increase the burden on taxpayers when shtf. some states are attempting to enact legislation to prevent eminent domain or the ability of the govt to tax you out of your home also...cause the man wont take eggs, honey, or crafts as payment on a late tax bill

And the monkey presses the button.

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that is my two biggest concerns moro, health insurance and taxes

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Thanks for reposting that info regarding retirement, kvr. I found that to be one of the most interesting and important concepts when it comes to my own preparedness objectives. Explaining the financial benefits behind homesteading is much more sellable to the wife than explaining a shtf scenario.

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I have no monetary investments. I have a rental property which is almost paid for. I have no health insurance.

What I do have is skills. Some of them I will be able to continue using even when I become physically challenged. Some people buy gold. I think seeds are much more valuable. And things like medical supplies. you can't eat gold. You can't eat money. But most of all I think skills are more valuable than anything

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