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What are your thoughts regarding a mortgage on land? I could definitely afford a larger property if I put 40% down. My intent in that case would be to have it paid off in 15 years or less.

Personally I'm not a fan, but in some situations it is required

I wonder if it can be done with trout instead of tilapia.

I'm a fan of using native fish, Tilapia have many benefits but the need for heating the water turns me off from them, here is a list of hatcheries in Idaho, pick the one closest to your area and see what they raise for stocking

http://fishandgame.i.....getPage=84

How is the home during the summer, my wife wanted to know if it also kept the home cool during the heat. Is your pond well/spring fed, purely rain water and/or water table level?

it stays relatively cooler than the outside temps, if we had orientated it properly and integrated the earth tubes like we had originally planned, I think the performance would be much better. Pond has a small spring but rainwater provides the most

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Hey JSW, don't know if you saw the thread about cheap ideas for a summer vacation, but if you and your wife visit Idaho to look at land, it might be a good way to save money and be able to get a feel for what it is like to be off the grid. I found this cabin that is 25 bucks a day

http://www.recreatio.....kId=115789

this one is pretty cool as well but is 60 dollars

http://www.recreatio.....rkId=72406

also might give you some construction ideas and would be at least a cheaper option than hotels

http://www.recreation.gov/

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Great resource, thanks! I hadn't considered this possibility. The second cabin is not too far from where I have been looking.

 

My wife was wondering how much prior experience you had building homes before you built yours. I showed her your step by step pictures of your house being built to show her it wasn't rocket science. She says you have an awesome home, but is now concerned with the level of experience/knowledge required.

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No construction background, just what we have done on our own properties. Started with an old mobile home that we remodeled, then we tried building a camp, then we remodeled an old farmhouse, then we totally re-modeled a bank-repo. We owned 5 apartment buildings at one point so we were always working on those. We totally remodeled our restaurant when we bought it, then we added an addition, then gutted and remodeled the kitchen. Then we built our house. We made a lot of mistakes on our earlier projects but we learned a lot of valuable lessons. The biggest being surround yourself with knowledgeable people. I have a friends that are plumbers, electricians and a carpenter. Whatever I don't know they are a phone call away.

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Each species of marine life have a different need so with Aquaponics your system needs to provide that need.  The more that is needed the more you need to do.  This chart will give you an idea for some.  You can literally raise crawdas and prawns you will need to research what is required. 

This year will be my 4th year running AP systems and I plan on farming the fish.  If you have questions I will be happy to participate in giving/finding an answer.

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KVR said

What are your thoughts regarding a mortgage on land? I could definitely afford a larger property if I put 40% down. My intent in that case would be to have it paid off in 15 years or less.

Personally I'm not a fan, but in some situations it is required

I have a land only mortgage. It has allowed me to get a pretty good amount of acreage. I'm satisfied with it.

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KVR said
No construction background, just what we have done on our own properties. Started with an old mobile home that we remodeled, then we tried building a camp, then we remodeled an old farmhouse, then we totally re-modeled a bank-repo. We owned 5 apartment buildings at one point so we were always working on those. We totally remodeled our restaurant when we bought it, then we added an addition, then gutted and remodeled the kitchen. Then we built our house. We made a lot of mistakes on our earlier projects but we learned a lot of valuable lessons. The biggest being surround yourself with knowledgeable people. I have a friends that are plumbers, electricians and a carpenter. Whatever I don't know they are a phone call away.

Thanks for the in depth work history. Definitely more than I have, but I think I'll be able to manage. You have provided an excellent visual blueprint, your design is growing on me. Your advice about having knowledgeable friends is consistent with my way of doing things.

 

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Each species of marine life have a different need so with Aquaponics your system needs to provide that need.  The more that is needed the more you need to do.  This chart will give you an idea for some.  You can literally raise crawdas and prawns you will need to research what is required. 

This year will be my 4th year running AP systems and I plan on farming the fish.  If you have questions I will be happy to participate in giving/finding an answer.

FishChart.jpg

Thanks Vodin for jumping right into the discussion after registering, this is great info. Coincidently it also pushes me even further from the idea of aquaponics (For my personal needs). I have considered doing a trout pond, but the areas I'm looking at are loaded with fish, especially trout. Ironic since I used to breed fish for sale when I was 12.

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KVR said

What are your thoughts regarding a mortgage on land? I could definitely afford a larger property if I put 40% down. My intent in that case would be to have it paid off in 15 years or less.

Personally I'm not a fan, but in some situations it is required

I have a land only mortgage. It has allowed me to get a pretty good amount of acreage. I'm satisfied with it.

Thanks for that information Spotted-horses. I am also not to fond of the idea of a mortgage like KVR, but I could easily swing a large half down payment on land and pay it off in 6-10 years and get 2-3 times the amount of land I could afford otherwise. The way things are going I could probably count on inflation helping quite a bit Smile

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