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9 Oct ’14 - 5:26 pm
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Wonder how much that level of training costs

Schutzhund tests dogs of all breeds for the traits necessary for police-type work. Dogs that pass Schutzhund tests should be suitable for a wide variety of tasks: police work, specific odor detection, search and rescue, and many others. The purpose of Schutzhund is to identify dogs that have or do not have the character traits required for these demanding jobs. Some of those traits are:

    Strong desire to work
    Courage
    Intelligence
    Trainability
    Strong bond to the handler
    Perseverance
    Protective Instinct
    Sense of Smell

Schutzhund tests for these traits. It also tests for physical traits such as strength, endurance, agility, and scenting ability. The goal of Schutzhund is to illuminate the character and ability of a dog through training. Breeders can use this insight to determine how and whether to use the dog in producing the next generation of working dogs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzhund

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The way I read that is that they just "prequalify" a dog as suitable as a work dog.  They don't actually do the training.

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KVR said
Schutzhund tests dogs of all breeds for the traits necessary for police-type work. Dogs that pass Schutzhund tests should be suitable for a wide variety of tasks: police work, specific odor detection, search and rescue, and many others. The purpose of Schutzhund is to identify dogs that have or do not have the character traits required for these demanding jobs.

 

No no no!

 

I am sorry, but this is bad and misleading information. Schutzhund is a competitive sport. It does not identify protective instincts, it can be misleading because the obedience level is impressive to watch. However, Schutzhund dogs are not personal protection dogs and may flee if a real threat was imminent. Read the article below.

 

Personal Protection Dogs – Some things you should know.

You can skip down to A sport dog is NOT a personal protection dog for the reasons to not be fooled by Schutzhund.

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Obedience is impressive, but it is not the same as protection.

 

 

http://youtu.be/z4ZIGHkGF-M

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easytapper said
The way I read that is that they just "prequalify" a dog as suitable as a work dog.  They don't actually do the training.

that was just the traits they were looking for in the dog from my understanding, according to the wiki page, this is the training

Schutzhund training, like the sport itself, has evolved over the years. The definitive description of Schutzhund training in the first 50 years of the sport is Col. Konrad Most's Dog Training: A Manual, 1910 (English trans. 1954, ISBN 1-929242-00-X). By modern standards, Most's training is very harsh and possibly abusive. Despite this, it is also structured, consistent, and in many ways conforms to more recent ideas on learning theory. Over time, the more brutal techniques fell out of use and few trainers still follow Most's program. In 1981, Helmut Raiser published Der Schutzhund(English trans. by Armin Winkler, 1999 (no ISBN)), which radically changed Schutzhund protection training. In the US, the next great change in Schutzhund training is marked by the 1991 publication of Schutzhund Theory & Training Methods (ISBN 0-87605-731-8) by Susan Barwig and Stewart Hilliard. Also see TOP WORKING DOGS, A Schutzhund Training Manual by Dr. Dietmar Schellenberg, first published in 1982. With the fifth edition in 2012 (ISBN 978-0-9608798-2-3), Schellenberg presents a remarkably comprehensive guide with detailed, step-by-step instructions on Schutzhund training and theory. A number of other English-language books have been published on Schutzhund training. Some of the more influential books are:

  • Training the Competitive Working Dog by Tom Rose and Gary Patterson, 2004 (no ISBN). This book is out of print and has been updated in 2006 with Training the Behavior by Gary Patterson.
  • Schutzhund Obedience: Training in Drive with Gottfreid Dildei, by Sheila Booth, 1992 (ISBN 0-9663020-2-8)
  • Schutzhund: Theory and Training Methods by Susan Barwig and Stewart Hilliard (ISBN 978-0-87605-731-5)

A recent innovation in providing information on Schutzhund training is the development of video tapes and DVDs. As with books, all videos and DVDs are not created equal. Viewers must exercise discretion when considering the techniques shown in videos. Just because a technique appears in a video (or book) does not mean that it is a good idea or that many Schutzhund trainers use it. There is a diversity of opinion on how to train Schutzhund dogs. This is reflected in the many conflicting opinions presented in the various videos.

A reliable source for training information is a good Schutzhund club. The overwhelming majority of Schutzhund training is done by owner/handlers at local clubs. There are very few clubs in the US, making books and videos a vital source of information in that country. In the US, most clubs are affiliated with the American Working Dog Federation (AWDF), United States Boxer Association (USBA), American Working Malinois Association (AWMA), United Schutzhund Clubs of America (USA), Deutscher Verband der Gebrauchshundsportvereine (DVG), or German Shepherd Dog Club of America-Working Dog Association (GSDCA-WDA). Schutzhund clubs tend to be small, 20 or less members, because there is a limit to the number of dogs that can be trained in one session. Clubs often provide only limited formal assistance with tracking and obedience. To a certain extent, the clubs exist to provide the specialized resources needed to train the protection phase. However, a legitimate club will not permit a member to train only protection. Usually the more experienced members are willing to help the novice with tracking and obedience, though this is typically somewhat informal in the US.

Another function of Schutzhund clubs is to identify dogs that should not be trained in Schutzhund. Schutzhund is a challenging test of a dog's character, and not every dog, or even every GSD, is up to the challenge. The training director of the club has a responsibility to the dog, handler, club, and society to constantly evaluate every dog and to decline to train any dog with questionable character or working ability. Training a dog that does not really want to work is stressful and frustrating for all parties involved.

Schutzhund clubs regularly hold public trials, providing the opportunity for dogs to earn titles and for handlers to assess their training progress. A tiny number of dedicated handlers have trained their dogs to title readiness strictly from books and videos. This is unlikely to succeed in most cases, because it is almost impossible to train the protection phase without a helper. A good club should be considered a necessity for Schutzhund training.

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I've owned a few different protection dogs. 2 Malinois and 1 GSD. Shutzhund is more of a sport than anything.

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well I know not to believe wikipedia now, what's up Nader, how you guys liking Texas?

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KVR said
well I know not to believe wikipedia now, what's up Nader, how you guys liking Texas?

We dig it so far. Weather is great this time of year. Not sure how I'll feel this winter when its 60 out and sunny. I have a buddy that has a homestead going, he's the one I go hog hunting with. He hunts his hogs on horseback with dogs and uses a knife. He also trained protection dogs. I'm trying to get him on the site. 

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