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14 Jan ’14 - 2:19 pm
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You are in front of a 10th grade class. One time only, and you can teach them one thing, what would it be?

I had a high school teacher who was one of those teachers that you really bond with and changes your life. One of those 1 in 1,000 teachers who is having a net positive effect on the world.

Anyways before she retired one of her things was to invite back alumnus to talk to her classes. Nothing crazy. She didn't target her former top students, or people with turn around stories, or success stories, or failures. Over the years she has run the full gamut.

Anyways, twice while down in Florida visiting my parents she asked me to come talk to her classes.

She would introduce you, tell them the year you graduated and some background information. She would let the ask you questions about school or work, or anything they found interest in. The second half of the class she basically let you teach them anything you wanted.

She would say something to the effect of: (she gives prior notice so you have had time to think about it and make a homework assignment for the class)

"Here you are in front of a tenth grade class. Imagine this is YOUR class, and you will be teaching YOUR tenth grade self along with your 10th grade class. What are we learning today?"

Me, I chose interest and compounding interest. How to calculate it. I took the idea from a professor I had who did this lesson with every single class he taught and had an example as homework every week. This was at NYU Stern. You would be amazed at how many people did not consider this as a part of their decision process as a consumer.

I worked four examples for them, (something similar to this, it was 6 years ago)

1. A girl buys x dress for x dollars at x interest rate on her credit card. What is her total cost if only making a $25 minimum payment, what is her total cost if she pays in one year.

2. You are buying an air conditioner. One is $250, the other $350. The $350 one is an energy efficient model that saves 5% annually on estimated energy costs of $125. If you plan on using for x years which is the better long term value.

3. Justin goes to Harvard. His total tuition was $125,000. He has loans of $92,000 financed over a 10 year period a 4,7%. What is Justins real cost of going to Harvard?

4. Ned puts $1000 into a dividend paying stock that will yield 6.8% annually. If this rate stays constant and dividends are reinvested how much money does Ned have in 10 years?

I handed them out o a worksheet with a page of answers attached so we could discuss.

I thought it important not because I don't think people can not calculate interest or do not get the concept, I discussed it because I don't think it is even in the back of their minds when they make the purchase, and I don't think it is even in the back of their minds when they finally pay off the financed purchased. The goal wasn't to teach them the math, but to put the idea in their head that the cost on the price tag is not the real cost, and get them to start thinking in terms of real costs, or real savings. There is no need to do it with every purchase, just an awareness is enough.

It would be cool if because of that a few kids thought more about their college decision, or just made a more informed consumer decision due to that talk. Maybe for some it will be in the back of their minds now.

Some I am sure thought I was a geek, and were bored out of their minds. One kid kept asking me about cocaine and hookers and a partying lifestyle lol, he had no interest in what I did or my lesson.

So I am curious, if you were in front of your 10th grade class, what would you teach?

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14 Jan ’14 - 2:35 pm
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I was approached by my daughters school for this. They have a class that they have to take, I forget the name of it, I think it's career pathway or something.

They usually bring in a local business owner and have a Q&A with them. The students said they wanted to talk to me, so she called to see if I would be interested.

I told her I would, so she e-mailed me some generic questions and I did a follow up phone call with her the next day to review them.

At the end of the conversation, I asked her if I would have several minutes to have a honest discussion with the kids, she said that would be fine, what would I like to discuss?

I want to tell them they aren't special.

Silence.

What I mean by that is, it is really getting difficult in todays world to find people that are willing to work hard to get ahead. Kids today are coming out of school with a inflated view of self worth. They have been fed this false sense of self superiority their whole life, take school for example, every kid gets a award at the end of the year, everyone.

It's not just the school though, it's society as a whole that is portraying a illusion of what the real world is like and kids are coming out of school totally unprepared for it.

I just want to communicate, they aren't special, you're not going to be coddled you're whole life, want to get ahead? Work hard, learn the job of the person above you, so when that position opens up, you are the natural choice for promotion.

Don't think any job is below you. You laugh at the guy pumping gas? That guy owns 2 gas stations and a motel, but you wouldn't know it looking at him.

Thinking delivering pizza is below you? That's how I started, now I own my own restaurant.

When you get a job, don't go in with the attitude a large majority of people have to today, what can they do for me, go in with the attitude, what can I do for them. You can be successful in whatever you choose, but no one is going to hand it to you and you're going to have to work hard to get it.

She said that would be fine, she would call the next day to schedule my visit, I never heard back from her lol

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14 Jan ’14 - 2:36 pm
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find your passion like your life depended on it, make it your work, and go after it fearlessly.

And the monkey presses the button.

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very well said moro

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When i was an engineering student, a foundation would pay me 50$ to go in a highschool class to talk to the kids to promote scientific career.

They would always send me to schools in super poor neighborhoods with HUGE dropout rates and kids usually didn't give much crap about what i was telling them...

I remember one time a girl said: "it not fair [insert whatever she didnt find fair] because [insert whatever reason she said that thing wasnt]"

So i replied something along the line of : "well, life in general isn't fair, so you better get used to it now or you'll be really disapointed later"

The teacher looked at me like i was a monster haha

Come on! If 15 years old teenager can't hear that life is unfair, how will they survive?

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KVR pretty much summed up what I would say. The world doesn't owe you a thing. The self esteem lessons being crammed down your throat are making you a weaker person. Even if you are capable of something special, it isn't going to happen without effort on your part.

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Quote from simthefarmer on January 15, 2014, 16:07

When i was an engineering student, a foundation would pay me 50$ to go in a highschool class to talk to the kids to promote scientific career.

They would always send me to schools in super poor neighborhoods with HUGE dropout rates and kids usually didn't give much crap about what i was telling them...

I remember one time a girl said: "it not fair [insert whatever she didnt find fair] because [insert whatever reason she said that thing wasnt]"

So i replied something along the line of : "well, life in general isn't fair, so you better get used to it now or you'll be really disapointed later"

The teacher looked at me like i was a monster haha

Come on! If 15 years old teenager can't hear that life is unfair, how will they survive?

Sad teachers don't want kids to hear reality

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24 Feb ’14 - 6:42 pm
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lol, so my daughter came home today and said her teacher wanted to know if I would talk to the class, it's on!

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