Will be interesting to see what their ruling is on this
The Supreme Court appears torn over the use of race in college admissions and may not be ready to make a decision without more information.
Several justices on Wednesday asked about the value of ordering more hearings in a case from Texas that they've now heard twice. Additional evidence might determine whether the use of race is necessary to increase diversity at the University of Texas.
The justices rehashed many of the same arguments they discussed three years ago in the case of Abigail Fisher. Justice Anthony Kennedy — who's crucial to the outcome — said there's information "we should know and don't know."
Their skepticism about the issue was on display during more than 90 minutes in a packed courtroom.
Conservative Justice Antonin Scalia questioned whether some minority students are harmed by the policy because it helped them gain admittance to schools where they might not be able to academically compete.
"There are those who contend that it does not benefit African Americans to get them into the University of Texas where they do not do well, as opposed to having them go to a less-advanced school, a slower-track school where they do well," Scalia said referencing an amicus brief.
12 Oct ’12
As some of you know, I worked for a state university for 5 years before leaving the progressive clown show and heading out to the private sector. I ran a IT helpdesk that supported students with technology; let me tell you... a lot of students who get into universities are not prepared. I won't say affirmative action is to blame for all of that, but so many kids get in, get in debt and then drop out because they either can't cut it or they are simply not ready. Then those kids have loan debt and no means to pay it back. Regardless of color, nationality or gender, letting kids in who are not ready for college doesn't do them any favors - they end of worse off.
jonathco said
Then those kids have loan debt and no means to pay it back. Regardless of color, nationality or gender, letting kids in who are not ready for college doesn't do them any favors - they end of worse off.
It's why it pisses me off that the message kids are receiving is that if they don't go to college then they will be a bum their whole life. It is ingrained all throughout high school that college is a must.
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KVR said
jonathco said
Then those kids have loan debt and no means to pay it back. Regardless of color, nationality or gender, letting kids in who are not ready for college doesn't do them any favors - they end of worse off.It's why it pisses me off that the message kids are receiving is that if they don't go to college then they will be a bum their whole life. It is ingrained all throughout high school that college is a must.
We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this point. In the current job market, if you don't have a degree you're at a definite disadvantage. And there are some jobs that won't even look at you if you don't have a degree even though it's not technically needed for the position. In our state, I don't even think you can be a substitute teacher w/o an AA degree. Yes, there are some people who find trades, or just have talent and drive and end up successful. And there's a large portion of the HS diploma crowd that end up being preyed on by faux colleges (I'm looking at you University of Phoenix) and trade schools that just pump out certificates.
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