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5 Nov ’14 - 8:48 am
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pretty much sums up my feelings

Lepage got re-elected as governor, the left is in an uproar, every bond issue got passed, yet people are still complaining about govt spending

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wow California passed prop 47

Summary

Put on the Ballot by Petition Signatures

Requires misdemeanor sentence instead of felony for certain drug and property offenses. Inapplicable to persons with prior conviction for serious or violent crime and registered sex offenders. Fiscal Impact: State and county criminal justice savings potentially in the high hundreds of millions of dollars annually. State savings spent on school truancy and dropout prevention, mental health and substance abuse treatment, and victim services.

What Your Vote Means

YESA YES vote on this measure means: Criminal offenders who commit certain nonserious and nonviolent drug and property crimes would be sentenced to reduced penalties (such as shorter terms in jail). State savings resulting from the measure would be used to support school truancy and dropout prevention, victim services, mental health and drug abuse treatment, and other programs designed to keep offenders out of prison and jail.
NOA NO vote on this measure means: Penalties for offenders who commit certain nonserious and nonviolent drug and property crimes would not be reduced.

Arguments

PROChanges low-level nonviolent crimes, such as simple drug possession and petty theft from felonies to misdemeanors. Authorizes felonies for registered sex offenders and anyone previously convicted of rape, murder or child molestation. Saves hundreds of millions of dollars every year and funds schools, crime victims, mental health and drug treatment.

CONPotentially releases 10,000 felons from state prison. Reduces penalties for stealing guns. Reduces penalties for possession of "date rape" drugs. Opposed by prosecutors, law enforcement, and the business community. Opposed by crime victims and sexual abuse victims. Vote NO on Proposition 47.

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and how the heck is this legal? I opened up this letter

it had me listed first, my dad listed second, the rest were people on our road, first, the information on my fathers and I voting record was wrong, second, no one else in our family got one, my father was extremely angry about this, seems there was a article on it the other day

Can Mainers be shamed into voting?

In the past several days, a growing number of registered voters have received mailers or emails from an organization calling itself the Maine State Voter Program.

The notices include an official-looking seal, even though the Maine State Voter Program has no affiliation with state government.

The mailer opens with the question: “What if your friends, your neighbors and your community knew whether you voted?”

It goes on to say that the mailer is designed to publicize “who does and does not vote,” and then includes a chart listing roughly 10 names of selected friends and neighbors, along with their addresses and voting history for the past three even-year elections.

“Do your civic duty – Vote,” the mailer concludes.

The Maine Secretary of State’s Office said Monday it has received an increasing number of complaints about the mailer dating back to last week.

“This is an entirely private organization apparently working on campaigns in Maine,” Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said in a written statement. “We have had no communication with them and do not know who or what they are advocating for or against.”

Dunlap said he has consulted with the Maine Attorney General’s Office, but so far has not uncovered anything illegal about the activity.

The Portland Press Herald also has received complaints from readers, including Republicans, Democrats and unenrolled voters, who found the mailers offensive. Among them was Ashley O’Brion of Raymond, who called the mailer “creepy.”

“I felt violated,” said O’Brion, 29. “I know everybody puts so much information out there but this is the first example I’ve seen where it’s used in such a negative way.”

O’Brion said she was troubled by how accurate some of the information was – such as the list of some of her friends and neighbors and their addresses – but also how inaccurate other information was.

“For me, it said I didn’t vote in 2008, but I did,” O’Brion said. “I just didn’t vote in Maine because I lived in Massachusetts at the time.”

Roberta Manter, who lives in Fayette, said she, too, was troubled by the mailer because it contained false information.

“It says my husband and I did not vote in 2008, but we most certainly did,” she said.

Others who contacted the Press Herald said the mailers also contained inaccurate or outdated information.

Manter looked through the list of names on her mailer and found a commonality: They are all Facebook friends.

It’s likely that at least some of the information contained in the mailers came from the state’s central voter database. That database is technically public, but it’s really only used by political parties for get-out-the-vote efforts.

Jonathan Wayne, executive director of the Maine Commission on Governmental Ethics and Election Practices, which oversees state campaign finance laws, said his office has received two complaints, including one from a former Maine lawmaker.

Wayne said he doesn’t think he can investigate because the mailers were not produced by a registered political action committee or a party committee. Any campaign activity that encourages people to vote but does not reference a specific candidate or ballot question is exempt from campaign finance disclosure laws.

It’s not clear who is behind the Maine State Voter Program. The mailer says it’s a project of Be Counted Inc., which appears to be a national get-out-the-vote effort, but it also lists an Augusta post office box. The Secretary of State’s Office said Be Counted Inc. is not incorporated in Maine.

Wayne said he’s never seen this type of activity in Maine before, although he said other states have seen similar mailers, including in Kansas, North Carolina and Alaska.

A group called America Votes, a coalition of progressive groups that supports Democrats, has been sending out mailers encouraging people to vote, but those mailers are far less threatening.

Although the mailers are offensive to many, a study conducted in the late 1990s by two Yale University political scientists showed that the tactics work.

http://www.presshera.....ction-day/

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The GOP cleaned up in Michigan for the most part. I am not sure that is a good or a bad thing these days...

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KVR said
and how the heck is this legal? I opened up this letter

it had me listed first, my dad listed second, the rest were people on our road, first, the information on my fathers and I voting record was wrong, second, no one else in our family got one, my father was extremely angry about this, seems there was a article on it the other day

Can Mainers be shamed into voting?

In the past several days, a growing number of registered voters have received mailers or emails from an organization calling itself the Maine State Voter Program.

The notices include an official-looking seal, even though the Maine State Voter Program has no affiliation with state government.

The mailer opens with the question: “What if your friends, your neighbors and your community knew whether you voted?”

It goes on to say that the mailer is designed to publicize “who does and does not vote,” and then includes a chart listing roughly 10 names of selected friends and neighbors, along with their addresses and voting history for the past three even-year elections.

“Do your civic duty – Vote,” the mailer concludes.

The Maine Secretary of State’s Office said Monday it has received an increasing number of complaints about the mailer dating back to last week.

“This is an entirely private organization apparently working on campaigns in Maine,” Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said in a written statement. “We have had no communication with them and do not know who or what they are advocating for or against.”

Dunlap said he has consulted with the Maine Attorney General’s Office, but so far has not uncovered anything illegal about the activity.

The Portland Press Herald also has received complaints from readers, including Republicans, Democrats and unenrolled voters, who found the mailers offensive. Among them was Ashley O’Brion of Raymond, who called the mailer “creepy.”

“I felt violated,” said O’Brion, 29. “I know everybody puts so much information out there but this is the first example I’ve seen where it’s used in such a negative way.”

O’Brion said she was troubled by how accurate some of the information was – such as the list of some of her friends and neighbors and their addresses – but also how inaccurate other information was.

“For me, it said I didn’t vote in 2008, but I did,” O’Brion said. “I just didn’t vote in Maine because I lived in Massachusetts at the time.”

Roberta Manter, who lives in Fayette, said she, too, was troubled by the mailer because it contained false information.

“It says my husband and I did not vote in 2008, but we most certainly did,” she said.

Others who contacted the Press Herald said the mailers also contained inaccurate or outdated information.

Manter looked through the list of names on her mailer and found a commonality: They are all Facebook friends.

It’s likely that at least some of the information contained in the mailers came from the state’s central voter database. That database is technically public, but it’s really only used by political parties for get-out-the-vote efforts.

Jonathan Wayne, executive director of the Maine Commission on Governmental Ethics and Election Practices, which oversees state campaign finance laws, said his office has received two complaints, including one from a former Maine lawmaker.

Wayne said he doesn’t think he can investigate because the mailers were not produced by a registered political action committee or a party committee. Any campaign activity that encourages people to vote but does not reference a specific candidate or ballot question is exempt from campaign finance disclosure laws.

It’s not clear who is behind the Maine State Voter Program. The mailer says it’s a project of Be Counted Inc., which appears to be a national get-out-the-vote effort, but it also lists an Augusta post office box. The Secretary of State’s Office said Be Counted Inc. is not incorporated in Maine.

Wayne said he’s never seen this type of activity in Maine before, although he said other states have seen similar mailers, including in Kansas, North Carolina and Alaska.

A group called America Votes, a coalition of progressive groups that supports Democrats, has been sending out mailers encouraging people to vote, but those mailers are far less threatening.

Although the mailers are offensive to many, a study conducted in the late 1990s by two Yale University political scientists showed that the tactics work.

http://www.presshera.....ction-day/

this is fucked up

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5 Nov ’14 - 12:55 pm
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Woah, that crosses the line for sure

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Yeah. My wife wants me to contact my lawyer. The info is public recird. But the info they posted was wrong and it came across as threatening.

she's pretty pissed

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KVR said
Yeah. My wife wants me to contact my lawyer. The info is public recird. But the info they posted was wrong and it came across as threatening.

she's pretty pissed

Not sure if you have the time or money, but a couple of lawsuits  might cause them to rethink their actions.  Slander?  Liable?  but could you really prove you voted?  That brings up a more important issue.  Could your past votes have been erased somehow?  Here' you think your voting and your not.

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