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30 Jan ’16 - 8:56 pm
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always try and use someone local you trust

Maybe this has happened to you.

Locked out of your car or home, you pull out your phone and type “locksmith” into Google. Up pops a list of names, the most promising of which appear beneath the paid ads, in space reserved for local service companies.

You might assume that the search engine’s algorithm has instantly sifted through the possibilities and presented those that are near you and that have earned good customer reviews. Some listings will certainly fit that description. But odds are good that your results include locksmiths that are not locksmiths at all.

They are call centers — often out of state, sometimes in a different country — that use a high-tech ruse to trick Google into presenting them as physical stores in your neighborhood. These operations, known as lead generators, or lead gens for short, keep a group of poorly trained subcontractors on call. After your details are forwarded, usually via text, one of those subcontractors jumps in a car and heads to your vehicle or home. That is when the trouble starts.

The goal of lead gens is to wrest as much money as possible from every customer, according to lawsuits. The typical approach is for a phone representative to offer an estimate in the range of $35 to $90. On site, the subcontractor demands three or four times that sum, often claiming that the work was more complicated than expected. Most consumers simply blanch and pay up, in part because they are eager to get into their homes or cars.

“It was very late, and it was very cold,” said Anna Pietro, recalling an evening last January when she called Allen Emergency, the nearest locksmith to her home in a Dallas suburb, according to a Google Maps search on her iPhone. “This guy shows up and says he needs to drill my door lock, which will cost $350, about seven times the estimate I’d been given on the phone. And he demanded cash.”

The phone number at Allen Emergency is now disconnected.

It is a classic bait-and-switch. And it has quietly become an epidemic in America, among the fastest-growing sources of consumer complaints, according to the Consumer Federation of America.

Lead gens have their deepest roots in locksmithing, but the model has migrated to an array of services, including garage door repair, carpet cleaning, moving and home security. Basically, they surface in any business where consumers need someone in the vicinity to swing by and clean, fix, relocate or install something.

“I’m not exaggerating when I say these guys have people in every large and midsize city in the United States,” said John Ware, an assistant United States attorney in St. Louis, speaking of lead-gen locksmiths.

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I bought a set of lock picks over the holiday break and have been practicing ironically

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DD, what kind of learning curve is lock picking?  What kind have you been successful with?

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Gravel Road said
DD, what kind of learning curve is lock picking?  What kind have you been successful with?

I'm an amateur lockpick (very amateur).  The learning curve is dependent on the type of lock.  Some are easier than others, etc.  It just takes lots of practice.  Although, generally, it's not as hard as you would think.

I used to work for an architectural hardware company about 30 years ago.  They manufactured and installed doors, door frames, lock sets, etc. commercially.  Not sure if it's an industry thing, or was a company thing,  but they needed to be able to pick any lock they installed in case something went wrong, and that's how I was exposed to it.

I would think in this day and age of the internet, youtube and so on, it would be relatively easy to learn.

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Pretty much what ET said GR. I just picked up a set and a practice lock. Once you understand the mechanics of how a lock works the concept is simple. I have since moved up to a regular master lock I had sitting around and it's substantially harder, but I can still do it with consistency.

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On a separate note, how do I find a Lead Gen company for my pest control company??  Of course we would be legit and not take advantage of customers.

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I wouldn't even know where to start to find one, does your state have a pest control association? They might be able to help.

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KVR said
I wouldn't even know where to start to find one, does your state have a pest control association? They might be able to help.

Yes, we do have a pest control association, but it's more for legislative issues.  They're not too sharing when it comes to business.  I decided to google it after my post last night and the thing I found interesting was there was a lead gen website for lead gen companies.  Mind blown.

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