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21 Feb ’12
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KVR said
Rand dropped out of the race today, I think that is going to be a big boost for Bernie
Sadly that's true. I think it's because, once again, people have refused to educate themselves. They've refused to make a decision through knowledge and reason, and decide through emotion instead.
If going by the principles of liberty (limited government, personal responsibility and individualism, tolerance, peace and free markets) there's no way you can vote for Sanders. What he proposes is the exact opposite of liberty. non of his proposals has been thought out to it's logical conclusion and none of them make financial sense because the math doesn't work (I'm happy to go into further detail if you would like). What Sanders does, and he's very good at it, is use some pretty basic but effective sales tools like pre-framing to defend his positions when asked a question without actually answering it. He will also tell you what he believes, and how he feels rather than tell you what is going to happen. In this way he can't actually be held accountable.
Make no mistake about it, Sanders is a snake. There isn't enough money in the entire world to pay for everything he proposes, and if he gets his way, you can expect the US to slide even further towards the tipping point of default on our national debt. Look no further than Greece and Venezuela for examples. France, Spain and all the Nordic countries are in deep trouble too.
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6 Oct ’15
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When it comes to Bernie, I see no way he can pay for all the things he campaigns to do. You can only tax people and business so much.
And I am with DD on him.
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jonathco
15 Feb ’12
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I would like to see some hard numbers of what it would actually cost in increased taxes to pay for his healthcare play, I would gladly pay 2000 more a year in taxes if it took away my almost 10000 dollars a year premium and deductibles.
6 Oct ’15
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WOW..10 k for health insurance premiums and deductibles.... ok, wait a minute...just ran some quick numbers...with premiums, office and Rx copays, we are at approximately $6,500 a year... It is really good coverage for this area though. Living is not cheap at times
15 Feb ’12
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The 10,000 is just our premiums, we pay 890 a month and have a 4500 deductible per family member, max out of pocket of 12,500 I believe, and this is a silver plan.
6 Oct ’15
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Through her work we pay $190 ever 2 weeks. Then various copays for Dr visits and tests....all adds up fast.
15 Feb ’12
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My accountant is shocked every year when we hand her all our medical bills, oh the joy of being self-employed.
One thing that ticks me off with the ACA is we have to prove we have insurance through payroll deductions, for years we would just pay it through the business and use it as a deduction that S-corp pays our insurance premiums.
Now we have to have it coded through payroll that my salary is increased by the premium amount and then it is deducted as a non-taxable item.
The outcome is the exact same but it's a dog and pony show to prove I have insurance, here's a novel idea, why not just look at the multi-million dollar health exchange that you made me sign up through and see that we have insurance.
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