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25 Jan ’14 - 11:53 am
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A article from the Portland Press Herald

ALFRED — The first time Nancy Pike went to a food pantry, she could hardly believe she was there.

After working for decades and raising nine children without government assistance, there she was, asking for help doing the most basic of tasks: feeding herself and her husband.

It’s a memory that is sharp and painful, even two years later.

“I get emotional about that,” she says, turning her face down and covering her mouth with her hand as she recalls the first time she asked for food. Tears slip down her face.

Hunger

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Jim and Nancy Pike have dinner at home. The meal included chicken sandwiches and chicken soup. The chicken came from the monthly Good Shepherd Food-Bank Senior Food Mobile in Alfred.

“I was always on the other side when I worked. Now I have to beg.”

Faced with health problems that prevent them from working, Nancy Pike, 77, and Jim Pike, 65, struggle to get by on their monthly Social Security check. By the time they pay their bills, they often find themselves with little or no money left for groceries.

Their trips to the food pantry are a closely guarded secret they keep even from their nine children and 25 grandchildren.

“They think I’m strong and I think that’s a weakness,” Nancy Pike says.

The Pikes, who live in a tidy but old trailer in Alfred, have no choice but to turn to an emergency food system that is increasingly stressed as a growing number of seniors in Maine and across the country need help putting food on the table.

In Maine, the number of seniors on food stamps, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, reached 29,571 in October – a 32 percent increase since 2010. Seniors now account for 12 percent of food stamp recipients, a figure which will climb as the population in Maine – which already has the nation’s oldest median age of 37.5 – continues to rise.

Experts in Maine believe there are at least 24,000 Maine seniors, or about 8 percent of the senior population, who don’t have enough food to maintain a healthy diet, which the U.S. Department of Agriculture defines as “food insecurity.” However, the National Foundation to End Senior Hunger, a Virginia nonprofit organization, puts the percentage of hungry Maine seniors higher, at more than 14 percent, when seniors who are “marginally food insecure” are included.

But these figures vastly understate the true degree of hunger among the elderly, according to those who work on the issue. This is true, the experts say, because the majority of seniors don’t want to ask for public assistance, and many of those who are willing to seek help don’t know where to look or whether they even qualify for programs like food stamps or food pantries.

In addition, statistics on hunger among the elderly are sketchy, inconsistent and incomplete, in part because hunger prevention programs have historically focused on children and families, which has driven funding and research toward those groups rather than older Americans. Complicating matters, public agencies and private groups that work on hunger don’t always use the same definitions. The first national report on senior hunger wasn’t published until 2008, and there have been no comprehensive state-level studies of hunger among elders.

An estimated 8.8 million seniors in the United States now face the threat of hunger, an 88 percent increase since 2001, according to the National Foundation to End Senior Hunger.

“In 2001, we found one in nine seniors faced the threat of hunger. That’s now one in six,” said Enid Borden, founder and president of the nonprofit National Foundation to End Senior Hunger. “I call that the decade of shame. We should be ashamed that in those 10 years we’ve seen an 88 percent increase in the number of seniors affected by hunger. It’s a national problem with local and state implications.”

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First, the piece is missing facts concerning their prior financial decisions and hard numbers concerning their assess and liabilities (why). Second, no support from family or the 9 kids they raised?

here is what I gleaned:

$1,278 combined a month they receive in Social Security ($15336 per yr)

- $65 a week car payment, ($260 per mo, $3120 per yr)

- unk amount for electric bill, propane for the stove, oil for heat, filling the car with gas and the other regular bills

- $17.50 (10 prescription medications, which at a co-pay cost of $1.75)

$700 in property taxes (That RV part of this?)

+ 30 pounds of food a month from the federal Commodity Supplemental Food Program and $64 (+768 per yr) monthly from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, more commonly known as food stamps

+ $200 a month in food stamps (was +$2400 per yr now +$792), but that dropped to $66 when they paid off their mortgage last year (how much was mortgage?)

+ $606 (Maine Low Income Heating Assistance Program this year, about enough to buy 150 gallons of oil).

both diabetic

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First, the piece is missing facts concerning their prior financial decisions and hard numbers concerning their assess and liabilities (why). Second, no support from family or the 6 kids they raised?

here is what I gleaned:

$1,278 combined a month they receive in Social Security

- $65 a week car payment,

- unk amount for electric bill, propane for the stove, oil for heat, filling the car with gas and the other regular bills

- $17.50 (10 prescription medications, which at a co-pay cost of $1.75)

$700 in property taxes (That RV part of this?)

+ 30 pounds of food a month from the federal Commodity Supplemental Food Program and $64 monthly from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, more commonly known as food stamps

+ $200 a month in food stamps, but that dropped to $66 when they paid off their mortgage last year (how much was mortgage?)

both diabetic

yeah, they said they were to proud to ask their nine kids

car payment 260 a month

electric is high here, I'm assuming they have forced hot air, I wouldn't be surprised if their electric is 200-225 a month for that little trailer

prescriptions are 10 each at 1.75 or more, so that's at least 35, I would assume this is higher

oil is 4 bucks a gallon, their probably going through 75 gallons a month or more in that trailer, so at least 300 for that

propane runs 2.3 a gallon, so probably another 20 a month for that

taxes 80 a month

a lot of unknows, health insurance? Home insurance? Car insurance? How much is excise tax for them? We don't pay a flat vehicle registration here in Maine, it's based off type, year and mileage of your vehicle. Our FJ was 525 the first year for excise tax, it's now 7 years old with 89000 miles and excise runs about 235 a year now.

It adds up quick here in Maine

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based on their prescription costs they are on medicare with perhaps a medicaid component from disability. if so we need to see average costs for medical visits. this combination in VA is $0 for prescriptions and minimal $ for dr visits.

too proud to ask kids but not every other citizen of maine? i think there is missing info here. if my family was in need ask would have nothing to do with it. first off their kids need to get them out of a ^%&%$# 1970's uninsulated trailer. If not possible spend a week insulating and repairing it for them. A 1970s (uninsulated) trailer in Maine...in Maine. I can hear Bobcat Goldthwait screaming about moving to where the food is, you live in a desert.

9 kids and a past history of debt issues and low wage employment. somewhere there is a responsibility to control your biology if not for your sake then for that of your kids.

$1,278 combined a month they receive in Social Security? someone may have worked but wasn't paying taxes the whole time (past financial decisions). disability benefits..what are they receiving?

they need help now, i get it. if this crappy article had any soul at all it should have focused on the they needed help 30-40 years ago.

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A 1970s (uninsulated) trailer in Maine...in Maine. I can hear Bobcat Goldthwait screaming about moving to where the food is, you live in a desert.

Blasphemy! Fucking Sam Kinison is rolling in his grave right now. You make a mistake like this again, and we're going to have issues. Sam Kinison was a comic god, and Bob Goldthwait was a hack. Sam HATED Goldthwait after Bobcat stole a couple movie/TV parts from him.

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based on their prescription costs they are on medicare with perhaps a medicaid component from disability. if so we need to see average costs for medical visits. this combination in VA is $0 for prescriptions and minimal $ for dr visits.

too proud to ask kids but not every other citizen of maine? i think there is missing info here. if my family was in need ask would have nothing to do with it. first off their kids need to get them out of a ^%&%$# 1970's uninsulated trailer. If not possible spend a week insulating and repairing it for them. A 1970s (uninsulated) trailer in Maine...in Maine. I can hear Bobcat Goldthwait screaming about moving to where the food is, you live in a desert.

9 kids and a past history of debt issues and low wage employment. somewhere there is a responsibility to control your biology if not for your sake then for that of your kids.

$1,278 combined a month they receive in Social Security? someone may have worked but wasn't paying taxes the whole time (past financial decisions). disability benefits..what are they receiving?

they need help now, i get it. if this crappy article had any soul at all it should have focused on the they needed help 30-40 years ago.

says she was baby sitting for years so I assume there were no taxes paid on that income. I don't disagree with what you are saying but this is how a large part of the population lives.

To be honest this could also be my future. I'm 44 this year, I have no retirement, any retirement funds we had we used to open the restaurant. We did a 180,000 dollar expansion in 07, We did a 30,000 dollar remodel of the kitchen in 09, every penny we have made over the last 9 years we have re-invested back into the business. Now that we have everything done that we want to do we can start paying off the existing debt load and putting money aside, Obviously we also count the business as a asset for retirement, but what if the economy continues to sour and god forbid we lose it somehow. I would be in the same situation. The big thing we have going for us though is we have zero personal debt and a lot of tangible assets.

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I'd love to hear what your exit strategy is.

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still working on that actually, there's a couple unknowns right now that will impact what the strategy ends up looking like, we have 4 or 5 different paths before us, most of them with residual income

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