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K, I wanted to start researching if we were to do miniature cattle at our place. At tips/tricks? We have a 3 to 4 acre field that is used for hay right now. Figured we could fence that in, divide it into quadrants, and place a pen in the middle that could be accessed from any portion.

Any ideas on how much each cow needs for grazing, etc? Thanks!

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Raising for meat or dairy?

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You going to do the pizza layout?

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Meat was the plan. We don't have the bandwith or time for milking. Not a true pizza, but like it and just a square. Here is our land layout (you have seen this before). It would be the field off to the right.

I don't know how long it would take the grass to grow back in a quadrant to feed the cows. How much did your mini dexters cost apiece? Everything is more expensive in MI.

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On phone right now. When I get on my laptop later I have some ideas for you.

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I like these ideas.

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That amount of land would be perfect for 2 of them, a full size requires 1 to 1.5 acres for grazing so the miniatures are much less. We paid $350 apiece for ours which is a steal from what I have seen for other prices online.

What are thinking for fencing? They can be ran on electric if they have been trained on it but the cedar fence posts have worked out really well for us. 

If you don't want to use the full space or want to save on fencing material I would look at going with a circular pasture. Let's say that spot is exactly 4 acres so it would be roughly 418x418 feet. That would give you a perimeter of 1672. If you went with a circular pasture in the same spot you would have a perimeter of 1313 feet with an area fenced in of 3.15 acres which is still plenty big for 2 of them.

If you are seeing the prices that I am on a lot of breeders sites for upward of $2000 for a calf another option might be to just get a regular breed. Or just make a roadtrip to Maine.

A miniature will end up around 700 pounds while a regular breed will be around 1200 pounds in 2 years. You could just keep the regular till it hit's the miniatures full size weight and take them to slaughter. The regular will eat more and require more water but the initial purchase price should be significantly cheaper than the minis and should offset those costs greatly. 

Minis are much easier to handle though.

One downside with the minis is the amount of inline breeding that goes on with them. I know a lot of animals are inbred but depending on the breeder and how they handle their breeding program you could possibly end up with a calve with less than desirable traits. Our breeder is the only one that I know of in the area and he keeps pretty meticulous records of his breeding to make sure that he doesn't cross the line more than once and I believe he imports bull semen to add new genetics to his herd. But, polo seen here on the right.

Is definitely smaller and seems a little "off". Nothing too bad but there is a marked difference between him and his brother Marco. Marco never makes a sound, he just roams around, eats and comes up to get a carrot every now and then. Polo will just stare at a tree and moo, he is also very skittish and not as personable as his brother.

Is it the breeding? I don't know, it might just be his natural disposition, but it is something to think about. 

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Great info, K. Here is what I was thinking of doing -- but you are right, more fencing which gets expensive. For some reason I thought we could get by on field fencing -- but to do that I would need to run electric on the inside? We were thinking of going with field fencing so we could run meat chickens in the pasture after the cows. From this picture a lot of our available land would be taken up for cows -- but we aren't using it now anyway so maybe it would be a good thing?

I hope when you and your wife are eating your burgers you can wonder which on the meat is from. Marco? Polo? Should make for some funny conversations. You are right about the expense of the breed -- from what I have seen here they are very expensive. But good call on regular calves but just slaughtering them when they are younger. I wonder if I could find a mini dexter cow and breed her using AI and keep a few babies and sell the rest. Hmm. Interesting to think about.

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